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Re: NIN Reaction to iPhone App Store Rejection

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Post by cstejerean »

stanleydrew wrote: post #17
teej wrote: post #14

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Under the same line of reasoning: if I own a brick and mortar store, it should be MY store. I should be able to dictate what I stock on my shelves. If customers don't like it, they can shop elsewhere.

But you can't shop elsewhere. Correct me if I'm wrong but isn't the app store the only way to get applications for the iphone short of jailbreaking? Don't you think if there was a competing app store that was completely open people would flock to it?

I'm pretty sure people wouldn't "flock" to it, for the same reason iTunes is still doing well selling music despite a better selection on Amazon MP3. Don't underestimate the importance of convenience to most people.

Re: NIN Reaction to iPhone App Store Rejection

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Post by edd »

jetako wrote: post #19

Can anyone chime in on the app store review procedure? Is each app assigned an individual review monkey, or is it passed through multiple hands? Methinks Apple needs better screening and performance evaluation of their app store employees. All it takes is a few jackasses in the mix for this to happen. Their rejection policy clearly leaves certain things open for interpretation.

As far as I am aware from reading around the subject after reading the millionth "the app store sux" article. The best indication we have is from this article: http://www.marco.org/98546611

  "In all cases, the reviewers don’t touch the app until the
  day before approval or rejection. And they don’t seem to
  interact with the app for more than a few minutes.

  The app just sits there for 6-8 days, untouched, then goes
  through an approval or rejection process that, as far as I
  can tell, takes less than 20 minutes for a complex app (and
  probably much less time for a simple one)."

Re: NIN Reaction to iPhone App Store Rejection

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Post by mseebach »

hboon wrote: post #20
stanleydrew wrote: post #9

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The g1 running android is pretty great. I've been using it for four months and have very few complaints, plus it's a completely open-source system. The new software update provides an onscreen keyboard if you don't like to type on real keys, but I think having the choice to use a tactile keyboard is really nice. I'll also never own an iphone.

It claims to be a completely open-source system. Wasn't there a case where a tethering app was pulled out by Google from Market due to telco pressure? Of course being Android, with a few more steps, you can add an alternative "market place". But that's besides the point, it is not completely open even though it claims to be. At the moment, no, experience-wise for the consumer , it is almost always worse than the iPho…

> Wasn't there a case where a tethering app was pulled out by Google from Market due to telco pressure?

I own neither an iPhone or a G1, so can someone clarify this for me: On the iPhone, you can't get an app on there, except through the App store or jail-breaking? On Andriod, you can do both? So even if your app isn't in the market, you can distribute it separately, which you can't for the iPhone?

Re: NIN Reaction to iPhone App Store Rejection

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Post by blgraves »

joecode wrote: post #12
chaosmachine wrote: post #5

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You're missing the point. Apple sells The Downward Spiral in the iTunes store. Not allowing the same content in the App store is just absurd. In fact, the app doesn't even contain the content, it's just accessible through it.

I believe the reason for the apparent contradiction is this: Apple acts as a publicizer for the apps in the app store by letting them into the top-N lists and recent releases. When an "objectionable" app becomes popular, users hold Apple to account. They don't do this with the music store. As the app store gets more and more crowded, Apple will most likely loosen up. Or maybe they will do the really intelligent thing…

Apple has a top-N list for songs, albums, audiobooks, movies, tv shows, etc. on the front page of the itunes store. How is advertising questionable material in those lists any different than advertising apps with questionable content?

Re: NIN Reaction to iPhone App Store Rejection

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Post by axod »

stanleydrew wrote: post #17
teej wrote: post #14

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Under the same line of reasoning: if I own a brick and mortar store, it should be MY store. I should be able to dictate what I stock on my shelves. If customers don't like it, they can shop elsewhere.

But you can't shop elsewhere. Correct me if I'm wrong but isn't the app store the only way to get applications for the iphone short of jailbreaking? Don't you think if there was a competing app store that was completely open people would flock to it?

The iPhone has a web browser! Welcome to the world of webapps. Where you can run anything you like. Much of it is even free!

Re: NIN Reaction to iPhone App Store Rejection

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Post by tlrobinson »

axod wrote: post #23
sadfsa wrote: post #7

I'm never, ever getting an iPhone.

I'm sure Apple will miss you terribly. An app was denied. Big deal. No great loss. If you really want to run the app, jailbreak your phone and run it.

While I don't think it's a major reason not buy an iPhone, it is actually a fairly big problem. I know of at least 3 high profile apps that have been rejected due to "objectionable content" which was nothing more than a few swear words on content loaded from the web.

My problem, aside from the censorship in the first place, is that they don't follow the same standards in their own apps. Search the YouTube app for any swear word and it will happily give you all the swearing you can handle.

Re: NIN Reaction to iPhone App Store Rejection

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Post by axod »

tlrobinson wrote: post #28
axod wrote: post #23

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I'm sure Apple will miss you terribly. An app was denied. Big deal. No great loss. If you really want to run the app, jailbreak your phone and run it.

While I don't think it's a major reason not buy an iPhone, it is actually a fairly big problem. I know of at least 3 high profile apps that have been rejected due to "objectionable content" which was nothing more than a few swear words on content loaded from the web. My problem, aside from the censorship in the first place, is that they don't follow the same standards in their own apps. Search the YouTube app for any…

The web browser is un-censored. That's pretty much all that matters in this day+age.
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