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Re: NIN Reaction to iPhone App Store Rejection

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Post by jobo »

pj wrote: post #4

I don't think this is so bad really. Apple's brand is affected by the kind of material it sells and it wants to protect its brand. It's just like Facebook has porn patrol. Being a vendor of a product isn't just about moving product, it's about moving product in a direction that you believe makes the world a better place for you to live. Apple has the right to choose how to let people use their platform. Imagine a wor…

Who cares about Apple's brand? If you buy a device it should be YOUR device. No one should be able to dictate what content you put on YOUR device.

Re: NIN Reaction to iPhone App Store Rejection

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Post by joecode »

chaosmachine wrote: post #5
pj wrote: post #4

I don't think this is so bad really. Apple's brand is affected by the kind of material it sells and it wants to protect its brand. It's just like Facebook has porn patrol. Being a vendor of a product isn't just about moving product, it's about moving product in a direction that you believe makes the world a better place for you to live. Apple has the right to choose how to let people use their platform. Imagine a wor…

You're missing the point. Apple sells The Downward Spiral in the iTunes store. Not allowing the same content in the App store is just absurd. In fact, the app doesn't even contain the content, it's just accessible through it.

I believe the reason for the apparent contradiction is this: Apple acts as a publicizer for the apps in the app store by letting them into the top-N lists and recent releases. When an "objectionable" app becomes popular, users hold Apple to account. They don't do this with the music store.

As the app store gets more and more crowded, Apple will most likely loosen up. Or maybe they will do the really intelligent thing: allow everything in, but only allow "non-objectionable" material into the top-N and recent releases sections.

Re: NIN Reaction to iPhone App Store Rejection

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Post by teej »

jobo wrote: post #11
pj wrote: post #4

I don't think this is so bad really. Apple's brand is affected by the kind of material it sells and it wants to protect its brand. It's just like Facebook has porn patrol. Being a vendor of a product isn't just about moving product, it's about moving product in a direction that you believe makes the world a better place for you to live. Apple has the right to choose how to let people use their platform. Imagine a wor…

Who cares about Apple's brand? If you buy a device it should be YOUR device. No one should be able to dictate what content you put on YOUR device.

Under the same line of reasoning: if I own a brick and mortar store, it should be MY store. I should be able to dictate what I stock on my shelves. If customers don't like it, they can shop elsewhere.

Re: NIN Reaction to iPhone App Store Rejection

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Post by tdavis »

teej wrote: post #14
jobo wrote: post #11

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Who cares about Apple's brand? If you buy a device it should be YOUR device. No one should be able to dictate what content you put on YOUR device.

Under the same line of reasoning: if I own a brick and mortar store, it should be MY store. I should be able to dictate what I stock on my shelves. If customers don't like it, they can shop elsewhere.

And technically speaking, that isn't even true. Try to allow smoking at your place of business in most states, for instance.

Re: NIN Reaction to iPhone App Store Rejection

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Post by joecode »

teej wrote: post #14
jobo wrote: post #11

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Who cares about Apple's brand? If you buy a device it should be YOUR device. No one should be able to dictate what content you put on YOUR device.

Under the same line of reasoning: if I own a brick and mortar store, it should be MY store. I should be able to dictate what I stock on my shelves. If customers don't like it, they can shop elsewhere.

Except if you own all the brick and mortar stores you have a monopoly. Even if you just own a large chunk of them (like Walmart), you end up having way too much control over what form free expression can take. That is closer to the situation with Apple and it doesn't seem too healthy for society as a whole.

Re: NIN Reaction to iPhone App Store Rejection

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Post by stanleydrew »

teej wrote: post #14
jobo wrote: post #11

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Who cares about Apple's brand? If you buy a device it should be YOUR device. No one should be able to dictate what content you put on YOUR device.

Under the same line of reasoning: if I own a brick and mortar store, it should be MY store. I should be able to dictate what I stock on my shelves. If customers don't like it, they can shop elsewhere.

But you can't shop elsewhere. Correct me if I'm wrong but isn't the app store the only way to get applications for the iphone short of jailbreaking? Don't you think if there was a competing app store that was completely open people would flock to it?

Re: NIN Reaction to iPhone App Store Rejection

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Post by endtime »

pj wrote: post #6
chaosmachine wrote: post #5

Earlier quoted context omitted.

You're missing the point. Apple sells The Downward Spiral in the iTunes store. Not allowing the same content in the App store is just absurd. In fact, the app doesn't even contain the content, it's just accessible through it.

what do you suggest is their rationale? Is that the point of this? to point out an irrational decision in the world?

Well, considering most of the people here write software, and this has to do with a (currently) popular software platform, I think it's worth pointing out.

Re: NIN Reaction to iPhone App Store Rejection

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Post by jetako »

Can anyone chime in on the app store review procedure? Is each app assigned an individual review monkey, or is it passed through multiple hands? Methinks Apple needs better screening and performance evaluation of their app store employees. All it takes is a few jackasses in the mix for this to happen. Their rejection policy clearly leaves certain things open for interpretation.

Re: NIN Reaction to iPhone App Store Rejection

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Post by hboon »

stanleydrew wrote: post #9
pj wrote: post #8

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You think the Pre is going to be all right? I'm waiting on it, but I've never seen it. What do you suggest as an alternative, I'm about to get a new device.

The g1 running android is pretty great. I've been using it for four months and have very few complaints, plus it's a completely open-source system. The new software update provides an onscreen keyboard if you don't like to type on real keys, but I think having the choice to use a tactile keyboard is really nice. I'll also never own an iphone.

It claims to be a completely open-source system. Wasn't there a case where a tethering app was pulled out by Google from Market due to telco pressure?

Of course being Android, with a few more steps, you can add an alternative "market place". But that's besides the point, it is not completely open even though it claims to be.

At the moment, no, experience-wise for the consumer, it is almost always worse than the iPhone.

And yes, I have both phones.

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