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Re: This is a web page

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Post by lukifer » Fri, Jun 21, 2013, 1:56 AM UTC

pnathan wrote: post #267

lukifer wrote: post #167

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Al Gore articulates the value of text well in _The Assault on Reason_. Short version: text is a "cool" medium which only indirectly rouses emotion, while images, sounds and especially video are "hot" mediums that are much more likely to bypass the prefrontal cortex, and directly stimulate emotional reactions.

That sounds like it derives from McLuhan's theories in "Understanding Media: Extensions of Man", a book I'm currently reading.

Ah, you are correct! Gore's book is merely where I learned it from.

Re: This is a web page

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Post by [deleted] » Fri, Jun 21, 2013, 2:02 AM UTC

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Re: This is a web page

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Post by bti » Fri, Jun 21, 2013, 2:07 AM UTC

gbog wrote: post #289

That's what I'd call responsive design. No snarks: it displays perfectly on phone screens and large monitors and loads fast. How could it be made more responsive. I think the key to responsiveness is to remove all javascript, all unnecessary styling, and most importantly to remove all dynamic social features. Then you have an html static page with long cache life.

I'd like the font size to be larger on mobile. But I agree with you about javascript. Those dynamic social buttons are horrible, multiple requests and 200kb+ additional data in some cases. All for a couple buttons that no one will use.

Re: This is a web page

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Post by devgrapher » Fri, Jun 21, 2013, 2:08 AM UTC

I'm touched

Re: This is a web page

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Post by chris_mahan » Fri, Jun 21, 2013, 2:17 AM UTC

I recently redid a restaurant main page (http://californiacanteen.com/) in a very similar way, targeting mostly mobile/tablet. Same principle. (the rest of the site is a work in progress and looks horribly 1996'ish).

Re: This is a web page

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Post by adefa » Fri, Jun 21, 2013, 2:19 AM UTC

joe24pack wrote: post #260

kmfrk wrote: post #255

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I feel like such a hipster for having used AltaVista and Dogpile as search engines.

Hipster huh? Well what about Lycos, remember that search engine?

HotBot was where it was at.

Re: This is a web page

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Post by chris_mahan » Fri, Jun 21, 2013, 2:21 AM UTC

The main problem is that writing is hard, and leaving just the words will make bad writing stand out. It seems that making a site "pretty" is easier than making the writing better, which is why I think the majority of sites go for glitz rather than excellent prose.

Re: This is a web page

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Post by zevyoura » Fri, Jun 21, 2013, 2:22 AM UTC

leephillips wrote: post #233

morsch wrote: post #93

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I think his point is that it's a communication system that facilitates communication amongst everyone . And everyone can communicate in words, typed out[0]. And not everyone can produce or effectively communicate using beautiful video, high quality graphics and, I guess, responsive design. [1] It's interesting to wonder what the next-common "wide area" communication mode is -- photos are widely shared, but is there a…

"not everyone can produce [...] responsive design" Notice that the page is automatically responsive, and is perfectly usable on a phone, tablet, or anything else. If your page has no CSS styles it will be perfectly responsive. If it's not, you've messed up that nice feature of the web with your stylesheet. Now you probably think you need to learn about media queries to make it work again.

I would actually argue that raw text is not 'responsive,' because column widths that are as wide as a large monitor are incredibly difficult to read.

Re: This is a web page

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Post by vacri » Fri, Jun 21, 2013, 2:26 AM UTC

MichaelGG wrote: post #264

strickjb9 wrote: post #207

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No, you are thinking of TCP. This is an article about HTTP. (in terms of bandwidth, HTTP ⊆ TCP)

Pretty sure YouTube is transported over HTTP. Not sure about Netflix but I wouldn't be surprised. HTTP has become a generic TCP wrapper for the common request->response pattern.

Wireshark doesn't think so:

9792 42.750939000 74.125.109.232 10.1.1.21 TCP 1506 [TCP segment of a reassembled PDU]

Re: This is a web page

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Post by vacri » Fri, Jun 21, 2013, 2:28 AM UTC

bitwize wrote: post #150

adventured wrote: post #69

"At it's heart, web design should be about words." No. The web is not just a place for text / words, that is not its heart and soul, and therefore neither is that the case for web design. It really never has been. I see no great argument in favor of words being the core over any other form of expression. Today's bandwidth more than allows for beautiful video, animation, high quality graphics and photos, etc. Or low k…

The web is not just a place for text / words, that is not its heart and soul, and therefore neither is that the case for web design. I'd say that text is not only the heart and soul of the web, but also of motherfucking civilization . Animation and video are nice, and great adjuncts to text. But language is still the most common and easy way to store and share information intended to be consumed by humans, and since…

'language' != 'text'. When you're having an intimate moment with your significant other, do you use your voice to convey your love, or do you write it down on a bit of paper?