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Your Feedback Matters – Update on Xbox One

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Re: Your Feedback Matters – Update on Xbox One

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Weren't games supposed to run partly on the cloud ?

I think that was just PR nonsense from the beginning. Besides the fact that very few gaming related tasks (except multiplayer support) would benefit from remote servers, they couldn't assume an internet connection anyway, since the check-in was only once per 24 hours.

PS4 has this as well. I'm assuming it's possible to direct a calculation to either the local or remote servers.

Re: Your Feedback Matters – Update on Xbox One

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You can disable the camera by turning it around. The microphone is the bigger issue.

You mean like the microphone found in almost every laptop, tablet, or phone? I guess the difference with this microphone is that it's listening to you all the time by default, and that creeps some people out. But it's not sending your words over the network, and is not more likely to start doing so than any of the aforementioned devices (actually, much less, because of increased security); it's just pattern matching…

I can install my own OS on laptop, tablet, or phone. Or remove the microphone without anything breaking.

Re: Your Feedback Matters – Update on Xbox One

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Stop spreading privacy FUD. Kinect can be controlled and disabled. http://news.xbox.com/2013/06/privacy

Software disabling is little use when the issue only exists because of a lack of trust in the software (ie NSA co-operation).

So point the camera at a wall and duct tape the microphone. Problem solved.

Re: Your Feedback Matters – Update on Xbox One

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post #148

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You mean like the microphone found in almost every laptop, tablet, or phone? I guess the difference with this microphone is that it's listening to you all the time by default, and that creeps some people out. But it's not sending your words over the network, and is not more likely to start doing so than any of the aforementioned devices (actually, much less, because of increased security); it's just pattern matching…

I can install my own OS on laptop, tablet, or phone. Or remove the microphone without anything breaking.

It's extremely difficult to remove the microphone from any of those things.

Re: Your Feedback Matters – Update on Xbox One

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Your computer and phone are big balls of blind faith in software/firmware.

My computer doesn't have a webcam or mic plugged in all the time pointed at my living room.

Many new smart TVs do, and they have already begun to be exploited - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jA_2AiaAkvk

Re: Your Feedback Matters – Update on Xbox One

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Sony has certainly done some heinous things in the past, but so has Microsoft. So, pick your poison.

What has Microsoft done to compete with the Sony rootkit? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sony_BMG_copy_protection_rootki...

I'm not sure if you've heard about this, but I heard that Microsoft created a near-ubiquitous OS that was so insecure that it allowed rootkits to be installed via music CD!

Re: Your Feedback Matters – Update on Xbox One

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This is talking specifically about disc-based games, which will return to operating as they always have. Good news for everyone. If you want to lend your game to a friend, give them your disc ("Lug" it around? For real?). Further when the inevitable system outage/hack attack happens, yay, those disc games still run. When Microsoft bans your Live account because your nephew trolled some people, yay, those disc games s…

How do I lend a game to my brother who lives on the other side of the U.S.? If you're going to make the argument that discs are "good enough" you sound a bit like people saying letters are "good enough" compared to e-mail. There are obvious advantages to digital content but it sounded like to get those advantages Microsoft decided it needed to add some "DRM-like" experiences. I'm not going to say it was the right tra…

The "family sharing" aspect of Xbox One has been compared to iTunes Home Sharing. If that's the case, you wouldn't have been able to share games with your brother anyway -- Home Sharing only works for systems that are on the same Wi-Fi network. I don't think Microsoft's original idea was as cool as you think it was.

Re: Your Feedback Matters – Update on Xbox One

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This takes care of the used games issue but it doesn't take care of: - $100 more expensive than PS4. - Kinect always included, always connected and always on. Cannot be removed, disabled or turned off. - Netflix behind Xbox Live Gold paywall, available for free on PS4. Plus other numerous functionality complaints such as it's supposed to be the way you watch TV but it isn't a DVR, you still need a separate DVR. And i…

Stop spreading privacy FUD. Kinect can be controlled and disabled. http://news.xbox.com/2013/06/privacy

Ok, so I was wrong on one of the 3. It still cannot be removed or turned off. It can be disabled by software which we have to trust is really disabling it.

Re: Your Feedback Matters – Update on Xbox One

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It doesn't matter they already showed me what kind of company they are over and over again. The fact that they would try this in the first place says something about them. After all these decades, nothing's changed about Microsoft.

And don't even try to feed me that BS about "companies exist to make money". No. They. Do. Not. A company exists to create a solution to a problem or fulfill a need. In exchange for providing that to a consumer or user they are rewarded with money. Money is not the goal, it's the result of achieving a goal. People don't start companies thinking "I'm going to start a company to make money" . They do however start them by saying "I'm going to start a company that makes ______ for money".

I'm just glad this whole thing backfired and I hope they feel the wrath of the gaming community for years. Their entire plan was to kiss the asses of publishers who would in turn make more exclusives for Xbone and the players would have no choice but to get an Xbone. Now that is a dick move.

Re: Your Feedback Matters – Update on Xbox One

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My computer has a webcam and microphone pointed at me whenever I'm using it. Same for many, many people.

And unsurprisingly there are many accounts of this being abused already, heres a few high profile examples: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Robbins_v._Lower_Merion_School_... , http://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2013/03/rat-breeders-meet...

Indeed. But it happens rarely enough that its usefulness to video chat with friends outweighs the risks for me and many other people. Most people are already okay with a camera on a device that is constantly pointing at them.
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