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Your Feedback Matters – Update on Xbox One

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Re: Your Feedback Matters – Update on Xbox One

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Post by baddox »

ebbv wrote: post #59
dualboot wrote: post #50

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Personally, I don't care if the Kinect is always connected if the thing isn't online at all. Also a $100 Discount doesn't have any traction with me regarding all of the bad will they created from the decades of pushing highly proprietary technologies into the market. Their terrible practices for me hit a crescendo when they made my life miserable via in-laws putting Sony rootkit audio-cd's into their PC. Nope. Not ge…

Sony has certainly done some heinous things in the past, but so has Microsoft. So, pick your poison.

I pick neither, and the Nintendo 64 will continue to be the most recent console I have purchased.

Re: Your Feedback Matters – Update on Xbox One

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Post by freshhawk »

Erwin wrote: post #77
ebbv wrote: post #59

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Sony has certainly done some heinous things in the past, but so has Microsoft. So, pick your poison.

What has Microsoft done to compete with the Sony rootkit? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sony_BMG_copy_protection_rootki...

Blatantly lying about the Skype backdoor?

Does it matter than much though? They are both awful in the context we are discussing. I'll likely not buy either, although that Tom Clancy 3rd person shooter MMO looks like a lot of fun and is console only.

The Steambox is an interesting alternative, it's scheduled for this year (insert valve release date joke here).

Re: Your Feedback Matters – Update on Xbox One

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Post by danielweber »

gfodor wrote: post #56
corresation wrote: post #26

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This is talking specifically about disc-based games, which will return to operating as they always have. Good news for everyone. If you want to lend your game to a friend, give them your disc ("Lug" it around? For real?). Further when the inevitable system outage/hack attack happens, yay, those disc games still run. When Microsoft bans your Live account because your nephew trolled some people, yay, those disc games s…

How do I lend a game to my brother who lives on the other side of the U.S.? If you're going to make the argument that discs are "good enough" you sound a bit like people saying letters are "good enough" compared to e-mail. There are obvious advantages to digital content but it sounded like to get those advantages Microsoft decided it needed to add some "DRM-like" experiences. I'm not going to say it was the right tra…

You can still share your digital library, but they are limiting the number of friends you can do that with. And that requires call-ins to their servers, but that should be expected.

Re: Your Feedback Matters – Update on Xbox One

#104

Post by muyuu »

sergiotapia wrote: post #62
wukkuan wrote: post #57

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What are the features the PS4 has that are missing on the Xbox One? Genuine question.

Free games with PS+, working online in my country, and more.

In your country it really is an easy decision.

On top of all that, it's clearly the superior hardware for cheaper, without the surveillance device bundled.

They are in for a rude awakening.

Re: Your Feedback Matters – Update on Xbox One

#105

Post by AdrianRossouw »

Erwin wrote: post #77
ebbv wrote: post #59

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Sony has certainly done some heinous things in the past, but so has Microsoft. So, pick your poison.

What has Microsoft done to compete with the Sony rootkit? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sony_BMG_copy_protection_rootki...

to echo another sibling response: yes, the steam box just keeps looking better. They might be enabling game sharing soon too[1]

[1] www.theverge.com/2013/6/19/4445844/valve-steam-game-sharing

Re: Your Feedback Matters – Update on Xbox One

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Post by jamesaguilar »

kalininalex wrote: post #91
jamesaguilar wrote: post #78

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There was this antitrust case where Microsoft tried to illegally take ownership of the entire desktop computing ecosystem. It would have probably done more harm than any one rootkit. You may have heard of it. Also, Sony-BMG is not the same company as Sony Computer Entertainment, and indeed no longer exists.

I guess the question requires further qualification, "What has Microsoft done, in the last 12 years, to compete with the Sony rootkit?"

With some other company's rootkit that was also a child company of the same parent conglomerate.

Re: Your Feedback Matters – Update on Xbox One

#107

Post by Groxx »

katbyte wrote: post #98
taopao wrote: post #96

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Your computer and phone are big balls of blind faith in software/firmware.

My computer doesn't have a webcam or mic plugged in all the time pointed at my living room.

would you recognize one if it were on the motherboard? it's not like microphones are big.

Re: Your Feedback Matters – Update on Xbox One

#108

Post by lizardking »

shock-value wrote: post #76
gfodor wrote: post #56

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How do I lend a game to my brother who lives on the other side of the U.S.? If you're going to make the argument that discs are "good enough" you sound a bit like people saying letters are "good enough" compared to e-mail. There are obvious advantages to digital content but it sounded like to get those advantages Microsoft decided it needed to add some "DRM-like" experiences. I'm not going to say it was the right tra…

> nerd outrage More like general consumer sentiment.

As of earlier today the Xbox One was the number 1 product on Amazon, two spots ahead of the PS4. I'd say that's a decent indicator of actual consumer sentiment.

Re: Your Feedback Matters – Update on Xbox One

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Post by brigade »

baddox wrote: post #99
mikelat wrote: post #85

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This page says it's disabled by software - not by hardware. So it really depends on how much you trust the software and the people making it. The software is closed source and the people making it also happened to be the first ones to sign onto PRISM.

Well everything is about trust, right? The PS4 could have a completely hidden camera that always on, but most people trust that Sony wouldn't do that, or that if they did, someone would quickly find it.

It's almost like iFixit doesn't exist.

Re: Your Feedback Matters – Update on Xbox One

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Post by baddox »

brigade wrote: post #109
baddox wrote: post #99

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Well everything is about trust, right? The PS4 could have a completely hidden camera that always on, but most people trust that Sony wouldn't do that, or that if they did, someone would quickly find it.

It's almost like iFixit doesn't exist.

It's still trust though. We trust that iFixit or some other third party would discover and publicize the secret camera. A few of us might even do it ourselves, but most of us would just trust that someone else would.
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