This takes care of the used games issue but it doesn't take care of: - $100 more expensive than PS4. - Kinect always included, always connected and always on. Cannot be removed, disabled or turned off. - Netflix behind Xbox Live Gold paywall, available for free on PS4. Plus other numerous functionality complaints such as it's supposed to be the way you watch TV but it isn't a DVR, you still need a separate DVR. And i…
Your Feedback Matters – Update on Xbox One
61–70 of 232 posts
Re: Your Feedback Matters – Update on Xbox One
#62Doesn't matter to me in the slightest. I was a 360 owner this current gen (coming off of the PS2) but I will leave Microsoft come end of year. I don't want or need the vast majority of features they are offering. I live in Bolivia - I don't care about the NFL, can't watch Netflix or even stream Pandora. The PS4 has more features that I can use and want, is cheaper and doesn't come with bullshit DRM. Where's the choic…
What are the features the PS4 has that are missing on the Xbox One? Genuine question.
Re: Your Feedback Matters – Update on Xbox One
#63This takes care of the used games issue but it doesn't take care of: - $100 more expensive than PS4. - Kinect always included, always connected and always on. Cannot be removed, disabled or turned off. - Netflix behind Xbox Live Gold paywall, available for free on PS4. Plus other numerous functionality complaints such as it's supposed to be the way you watch TV but it isn't a DVR, you still need a separate DVR. And i…
Personally, I don't care if the Kinect is always connected if the thing isn't online at all. Also a $100 Discount doesn't have any traction with me regarding all of the bad will they created from the decades of pushing highly proprietary technologies into the market. Their terrible practices for me hit a crescendo when they made my life miserable via in-laws putting Sony rootkit audio-cd's into their PC. Nope. Not ge…
Re: Your Feedback Matters – Update on Xbox One
#64The page is loading really slowly, so here's the text: Last week at E3, the excitement, creativity and future of our industry was on display for a global audience. For us, the future comes in the form of Xbox One, a system designed to be the best place to play games this year and for many years to come. As is our heritage with Xbox, we designed a system that could take full advantage of advances in technology in orde…
I know this has almost no chance of being the reason for the usage of the phrase "best of both worlds".
I posted this in a HN thread about xbox one.
>So the PS4 is Steam for consoles with offline support. Best of both worlds.
Thread:
https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=5876761
Comment:
https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=5878200
:-)
Re: Your Feedback Matters – Update on Xbox One
#65Re: Your Feedback Matters – Update on Xbox One
#66They should rename the Xbox One to the Xbox 180, it would be a perfect name!
On a more serious note, I don't like this rollback. It only goes to show how the witchhunt and echo chamber on Reddit worked. Even before the reveal, Microsoft was falsely accused of trying to game Reddit and everyone flew off the handle over someone pretty much lying to be a troll. Say the word "DRM" and you get bucketloads of Reddit karma and posts pointing out the facts(forget about posts taking the opposing view or opinion) were downvoted into oblivion by the angry mob.
And then there was the bad timing on the NSA leaks, which didn't help at all. Everyone has smartphones, laptops and tablets with cameras and mics which could be watching and listening and Apple/Google were part of the leak, but it was Microsoft that was singled out for proposing a device that could turn on itself, and had numerous safeguards to configure privacy if you wanted to.
All this doesn't excuse the fact that Microsoft utterly and totally failed in communicating their message in a proper manner in E3 and handed Sony an easy victory on a silver platter. For example, they failed to highlight how it fixes the problem of scratched and lost discs and how inconvenient it is to change discs to switch between games. I know a lot of people with huge DVD collections who watch the same movie on Netflix because they can't be bothered to put in a disc into the player.
They were touting the ability to play another game while waiting for people to join another multiplayer game, now that will be inconvenient with having to switch disks.
I guess it was easy to roll this back because it was not Microsoft but publishers and game developers that were going to reap the benefits of diskless gaming because Gamestop etc. skim off the value of older games and leave publishers with not much value. Once the public failed to see the advantages and blamed Microsoft for a power grab that was not going to really benefit them all that much, it was game over.
Re: Your Feedback Matters – Update on Xbox One
#67Re: Your Feedback Matters – Update on Xbox One
#68This takes care of the used games issue but it doesn't take care of: - $100 more expensive than PS4. - Kinect always included, always connected and always on. Cannot be removed, disabled or turned off. - Netflix behind Xbox Live Gold paywall, available for free on PS4. Plus other numerous functionality complaints such as it's supposed to be the way you watch TV but it isn't a DVR, you still need a separate DVR. And i…
The Netflix thing is the only one stopping me, really. I love the idea of voice commands (if they work smoothly) and combining my OTA channels with my games. I'm willing to pay an extra $100 for what I assume (and will wait to see verified) will be a much better cohesive media experience than the PS4 that includes those two things. By pay an annual fee for Netflix on top of what I pay Netflix? Never. I also don't car…
Same here! Also, I'm a casual gamer and I go months...YEARS without playing video games. I do not want another subscription that I'm going to forget about. I had an Xbox 360, but I never paid for the Gold service - so the only online gaming in my house is done on my PC workstation.
I will probably get a PS4 this time around.
Re: Your Feedback Matters – Update on Xbox One
#69This takes care of the used games issue but it doesn't take care of: - $100 more expensive than PS4. - Kinect always included, always connected and always on. Cannot be removed, disabled or turned off. - Netflix behind Xbox Live Gold paywall, available for free on PS4. Plus other numerous functionality complaints such as it's supposed to be the way you watch TV but it isn't a DVR, you still need a separate DVR. And i…
> $100 more expensive than PS4.
You get the easy to use Kinect voice control and things like fitness games that can help you be in your target heart rate zone.
Re: Your Feedback Matters – Update on Xbox One
#70Earlier quoted context omitted.
Really? It's not possible to turn on Kinect? Even if you unplug it? Even if you cover it? Even if you put it in a cupboard? Whoa, that must be a marvelous piece of hardware.
Console won't boot without it plugged in. It's also not clear if there will be a physical power button, meaning the only way to turn the damn thing on will be for Kinect to hear the phrase "Xbox On", meaning stuffing it in a cupboard won't be a particularly effective idea.