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Re: iOS 7

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Post by 90002 »

k-mcgrady wrote: post #100
jmduke wrote: post #34

Man, iOS 7 feedback is incredibly frustrating for no reason that actually matters. I feel like I spent the past few years falling in love with flat design, on mobile and on the web -- and I read article after article from historically pro-Apple bloggers/authors explaining that no, flat design was fundamentally a bad move: the strongest metaphor is that of the phone as a tool -- that we needed skeumorphism, we need hi…

>> "(People arguing 'its just a beta, it'll obviously change over time': what happened to Apple's relentless pursuit of quality before introducing something to the public? What's the point of secrecy if you're showing off v0.8 and not v1.0?) " They haven't really introduced it to the public. They introduced it to developers at a developer conference so they can prepare their software for it. Every single iOS release…

Agreed, folks are far too critical for a beta release that has yet to evolve. Of course, there are still major improvements that need to be addressed, but people need to understand that Apple will not ship anything shitty when it comes time to release it to the general public.

Re: iOS 7

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Post by gurkendoktor »

aroman wrote: post #46
Afforess wrote: post #28

Earlier quoted context omitted.

What happened to the Don't fix what isn't broken mantra?

Said no one at Apple ever? I'm being facetious of course, but really, Apple changes their designs up on the regular, even if it isn't "broken". See: the iMac product line.

I absolutely disagree. The whole reason I'm using Apple products is that their software has always been incrementally refined, never "revolutionised", like Windows 8 or Ubuntu's Unity or whatever. OS X 10.0 and OS X 10.9 look almost the same and so do iOS 1 and iOS 6. If the form factor of my Mac changes, it does not make any app on the system look ancient, and it does not negatively affect usability.

Re: iOS 7

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Post by habitue »

I think it's getting very hard for bloggers to credit Apple with "genius" for making this interface change. It's a solidly done refresh of an aging UI theme, which everyone has to do from time to time because UI themes are fashion, and fashion changes. A good move on Apple's part, but it's not indicative of any particular genius.

Re: iOS 7

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Post by Flying_Dwarf »

mikeash wrote: post #32
bcks wrote: post #2

Why yes, I would like to enhance text legibility: http://i.imgur.com/5XhQsM9.png

What a bizarre setting. If that's "enhance text legibility", then the "off" position is "make text harder to read, please"?

You just made the most important comment in this entire thread. This should be the top post. Apple: your move.

Re: iOS 7

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Post by sp332 »

Aloisius wrote: post #13

It reminds me of the Windows Phone. The specifics of the UI are different, but the philosophy behind the UI seems to be the same. It seems inevitable, when I first saw the original WP7, I thought it made the iPhone look old and that one thing that Apple does not like is looking dated.

Microsoft also has a better term for their philosophy than "flat". They call it "authentically digital".

Re: iOS 7

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Post by dionidium »

nostromo wrote: post #79
jmduke wrote: post #34

Man, iOS 7 feedback is incredibly frustrating for no reason that actually matters. I feel like I spent the past few years falling in love with flat design, on mobile and on the web -- and I read article after article from historically pro-Apple bloggers/authors explaining that no, flat design was fundamentally a bad move: the strongest metaphor is that of the phone as a tool -- that we needed skeumorphism, we need hi…

It's a common mistake on the web to take entire groups of individuals, with varied and nuanced individual opinions, and to group them together and then complain about inconsistency and hypocrisy. People say things like, apple users are foo or the new york times is bar or americans are baz . Well, of course any large group of people with divergent opinions will be self-conflicting when examined as a whole. I understan…

Thank you for explaining exactly what the parent's comment made me feel better than I could. If you read a bunch of different people's opinions, then you shouldn't be surprised that what you get is a bunch of different opinions.

Furthermore, why is the parent so interested in this idea of "Apple Users" as a group, anyway? There isn't really any such group (or, to the extent that there is, it's a very small group).

Re: iOS 7

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Post by coldtea »

jmduke wrote: post #34

Man, iOS 7 feedback is incredibly frustrating for no reason that actually matters. I feel like I spent the past few years falling in love with flat design, on mobile and on the web -- and I read article after article from historically pro-Apple bloggers/authors explaining that no, flat design was fundamentally a bad move: the strongest metaphor is that of the phone as a tool -- that we needed skeumorphism, we need hi…

>People arguing 'its just a beta, it'll obviously change over time': what happened to Apple's relentless pursuit of quality before introducing something to the public?

Nothing. They were always pragmatic about it, not "relentless".

And it's not a beta. The final version is coming in very short time, so it will be 98% the same. What it is is a FIRST version (iteration) of the new design. It will improve in iOS 8 and later versions.

People always go crazy when discussing Apple and forget basic facts.

Like, the original iPhone, and ALL subsequent models, where chastised for this pain point or the other. And all pain points (from lack of third party apps, to multitasking, to copy/paste, to the 4's antenna etc) where addressed, in a satisfying matter, in later versions.

People also forget how OS X went from barely usable (10.1) to highly capable and mature (10.4 and forward) functionality wise, or how the UI changed from "lickable candy buttons, heavy stripes and metal windows" to the subdued 10.8 look we now have.

People only remember "relentless pursuit of quality". But they forget that that "pursuit" comes in iterations and years, not just on every first version they introduce.

Actually, a decade old advice among Apple faithfuls, at least with regards to hardware, is: avoid buying a 1st iteration Apple product -- it will likely have some issue to be fixed in later versions or production runs.

Re: iOS 7

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Post by 90002 »

Flying_Dwarf wrote: post #109
grandalf wrote: post #10

I can't believe anyone likes the old one. I think the IOS audience just might be getting a bit old and stodgy.

Ha! Those exact words are going to bite Apple so hard when iOS 7 is released. Old people love ornamentation. My 91 year old grandmother can barely distinguish buttons on her iPhone 4, I pity how she'll use iOS 7.

"Well, to be honest, she can always sign up for One to One if she needs to learn how to interact with iOS 7's magical new interface." - Apple employee's response in a few months.

Re: iOS 7

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Post by Flying_Dwarf »

sp332 wrote: post #93
mikeash wrote: post #32

Earlier quoted context omitted.

What a bizarre setting. If that's "enhance text legibility", then the "off" position is "make text harder to read, please"?

"Off" means "prettier".

Prettier? "Off" means "Make my font look as ugly as Parse's logo".
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