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Re: Opera Mail – standalone mail client

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The main thing I care about with a mail client is the exit strategy - if I don't like it, can I export all my mail losslessly to mbox or eml files? Does anyone know how it fares at this? I use gmail now, though in the past I've used The Bat.

Opera stores mails in mbox-like format natively.

Re: Opera Mail – standalone mail client

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post #66

Good. But what I want to see, is Opera web browser _without_ an email client (and all the other stuff I never use.) Opera browser badly needs some slimming down. Call me old fashioned, but I deliberately use a prehistoric email client _precisely_ because it does not know anything about active content. Barely even handles html. And I like it that way. Now if Opera's email client had a big master switch, to totally dis…

opera browser without e-mail client: http://www.opera.com/developer/next Not for linux yet, though.

Good news. I'm OK with Windows - I'd rather be enraged with Microsoft, than with the Million Monkey syndrome.

Re: Opera Mail – standalone mail client

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post #22

Look at all the comments under the announcement. Really sum's up how I feel as well. A selling point of Opera was the built in email client. I liked how Opera used to be a silo for a whole bunch of features. When you closed it the rest closed as well. Was a great way to turn off work. Now we have ANOTHER fairly generic stand alone email client. ANOTHER fairly generic webkit browser. If it wasn't branded with an Opera…

Same here. I never used the mail part of M2 (other than for testing purposes), but I used love its RSS feed reader and IRC client. I want a browser with a deeply integrated feed reader which makes subscribing to and following content easy. I don't want to have to remember to launch a new website or an app to read the news I want to read.

Re: Opera Mail – standalone mail client

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post #37

I am not particularly happy with its integration with Gmail. Each email from facebook group is assigned separate mailing list. So now when I expand mailing list it is just cluttered with rubbish sublists like [0-9]*.groups.facebook... In general part which is responsible for detecting what is actually a mailing list isn't very clever. It would be nice if instead of creating folders for each label on Gmail it would cr…

Mailing lists are not the same as labels. Labels and Mailing lists are two different features (albeit very similar). Mailing list only looks at the List-Id: email header. Facebook is sending that in its emails, and that's why it gets its own "Mailing list" automatic entry. Not that beautiful, I agree.

As for labels, I meant that both OperaMail and Gmail have system of tags. However Gmail tags are treated as IMAP folders not using OperaMail tags. I realise that creating new tags in OperaMail may get out of sync with Gmail, but the the other way round - having labels from Gmail imported as labels to OperaMail should be possible to do.

Re: Opera Mail – standalone mail client

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post #36

An important feature for email: fast and flexible search over a large dataset. This is easier to implement in the cloud than on the client. So I don't see a strong future for desktop-based email clients.

And small bonus is that search works even when user is offline... if you are US government :-)

Re: Opera Mail – standalone mail client

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Just tested this with https://emailprivacytester.com/ and it failed Even though it claims to not load remote content by default, and pops up a "Load Images" dialogue, it actually loads content from the html5 video and audio tags immediately. So whilst this doesn't work unless the user clicks "Load Images": This does:

I thought it came out that emailprivacytester.com was a service created by the NSA.

Re: Opera Mail – standalone mail client

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The main thing I care about with a mail client is the exit strategy - if I don't like it, can I export all my mail losslessly to mbox or eml files? Does anyone know how it fares at this? I use gmail now, though in the past I've used The Bat.

If your server has IMAP, you shouldn't need that.

You may also care about a server exit strategy. Your local storage format becomes relevant in the event you want to change email servers. (Maybe if, for example, your email server decides to stop supporting IMAP to get everybody to use the ad-serving web interface instead. Or your email server belongs to a large company suspected of leaking to the NSA.)
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