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Re: Opera Mail – standalone mail client

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Post by derefr »

bobsy wrote: post #22

Look at all the comments under the announcement. Really sum's up how I feel as well. A selling point of Opera was the built in email client. I liked how Opera used to be a silo for a whole bunch of features. When you closed it the rest closed as well. Was a great way to turn off work. Now we have ANOTHER fairly generic stand alone email client. ANOTHER fairly generic webkit browser. If it wasn't branded with an Opera…

> a silo for a whole bunch of features. When you closed it the rest closed as well. Was a great way to turn off work.

Honestly, it sounds like you want an OS running in a virtual machine. Nobody is going to pursue your ideal "monolithic productivity suite that does everything" path; it's just a plain-bad idea.

Re: Opera Mail – standalone mail client

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Post by balakk »

bobsy wrote: post #22

Look at all the comments under the announcement. Really sum's up how I feel as well. A selling point of Opera was the built in email client. I liked how Opera used to be a silo for a whole bunch of features. When you closed it the rest closed as well. Was a great way to turn off work. Now we have ANOTHER fairly generic stand alone email client. ANOTHER fairly generic webkit browser. If it wasn't branded with an Opera…

I thought so too - I've been an Opera user for nearly 12 years. But genuinely, I know think this is for the better - Opera15 is bloody fast compared to Presto. I can see that they are trying. It's still long ways to go, but they have had a decent start.

Re: Opera Mail – standalone mail client

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Post by TerraHertz »

Good. But what I want to see, is Opera web browser _without_ an email client (and all the other stuff I never use.) Opera browser badly needs some slimming down.

Call me old fashioned, but I deliberately use a prehistoric email client _precisely_ because it does not know anything about active content. Barely even handles html. And I like it that way.

Now if Opera's email client had a big master switch, to totally disable all features beyond strictly dumb ASCII, and a means to import huge old mail archives from Eudora, then I'd be interested.

Edit: Correction: to disable anything beyond dumb ASCII plus UTF-8 foreign language support. But NOT html or any other active content.

Re: Opera Mail – standalone mail client

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Post by themckman »

derefr wrote: post #61
bobsy wrote: post #22

Look at all the comments under the announcement. Really sum's up how I feel as well. A selling point of Opera was the built in email client. I liked how Opera used to be a silo for a whole bunch of features. When you closed it the rest closed as well. Was a great way to turn off work. Now we have ANOTHER fairly generic stand alone email client. ANOTHER fairly generic webkit browser. If it wasn't branded with an Opera…

> a silo for a whole bunch of features. When you closed it the rest closed as well. Was a great way to turn off work. Honestly, it sounds like you want an OS running in a virtual machine. Nobody is going to pursue your ideal "monolithic productivity suite that does everything" path; it's just a plain-bad idea.

I currently contract at 2 different companies. I have the machines I was given at both running headless and just bring my laptop in and SSH to them to do work (my workflow is tmux/vim based). I then keep 2 separate user accounts on my laptop to separate the 2 environments. Leaving work is as simple as logging out and going back to my personal account.

Re: Opera Mail – standalone mail client

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Post by exterm »

TerraHertz wrote: post #64

Good. But what I want to see, is Opera web browser _without_ an email client (and all the other stuff I never use.) Opera browser badly needs some slimming down. Call me old fashioned, but I deliberately use a prehistoric email client _precisely_ because it does not know anything about active content. Barely even handles html. And I like it that way. Now if Opera's email client had a big master switch, to totally dis…

opera browser without e-mail client: http://www.opera.com/developer/next Not for linux yet, though.

Re: Opera Mail – standalone mail client

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Post by raphman »

mike-cardwell wrote: post #40

Just tested this with https://emailprivacytester.com/ and it failed Even though it claims to not load remote content by default, and pops up a "Load Images" dialogue, it actually loads content from the html5 video and audio tags immediately. So whilst this doesn't work unless the user clicks "Load Images": This does:

Thanks for this cool tool. FWIW, older versions of Opera with included mail client have the same problem.

Re: Opera Mail – standalone mail client

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Post by ndr »

odinho wrote: post #16
exterm wrote: post #3

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I expect Linux and Mac versions to follow. They have released windows version first on new products in the past.

I work on Linux version of Opera Mail. Windows and Mac is released today. A rc/test version of Linux will follow soon. (What is soon, you ask. Well that depends, but I guess in this case over a month would /not/ be soon.)

Thanks for replying here. I couldn't find other links to the Mac version so I inferred that there was only Windows support. It would be nice to have "Linux coming soon" page instead of "Download for Windows" by default :)

Re: Opera Mail – standalone mail client

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Post by anonymfus »

odinho wrote: post #53
mike-cardwell wrote: post #40

Just tested this with https://emailprivacytester.com/ and it failed Even though it claims to not load remote content by default, and pops up a "Load Images" dialogue, it actually loads content from the html5 video and audio tags immediately. So whilst this doesn't work unless the user clicks "Load Images": This does:

Ouch! Looking at it. Have created a bug about it already, so no need to report.

Works in Opera 12.15 too. Is there a hope for fix in it?

Re: Opera Mail – standalone mail client

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Post by lloeki »

Corrado wrote: post #46
odinho wrote: post #29

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Supports IMAP and POP. Mail providers like gmail, yahoo and hotmail should work pretty well. Doesn't do calendaring. Runs on WinXP. Don't know about that old OS X version, but I think it probably does. Runs on old Linux (when we release the Linux version that is). You don't even need gtk or qt, though it'll use them if it can find them.

Excellent! Now put that information on the web page somewhere so that others don't have to wonder. It doesn't even have to be on the home page, just somewhere . :) As a downside, I see that it doesn't support Exchange and that pretty much dooms it for me, at least on OS X. I hate Exchange, but I have to deal with it. Luckily, Apple's Mail.app seems to work fairly well with Exchange so at least I'm not forced to use O…

http://davmail.sourceforge.net/
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