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Re: Mac Pro

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Post by specialist »

rsync wrote: post #256

I love this new device. I suspect I will buy one. But it doesn't solve my "need a new mac pro" problem. Right now my 2009 octo mac pro, with six displays attached, plays three roles: - it is my high end desktop workstation, with three primary high resolution (2560x1600) displays. - it is my HTPC, with one of the six monitors strung into another room entirely. - it is my office NAS, with four internal 3TB disks So, th…

> But it doesn't solve my "need a new mac pro" problem.

Yes! Totally yes!

I held off buying a MBP just so mine would be one generation better than my coworkers'.

I just know there's a MBP in the pipeline, because the inventory has been allowed to dry up. Why wasn't a new model announced?

Re: Mac Pro

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Post by michaelwww »

rickmode wrote: post #386
michaelwww wrote: post #320

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It amazes me that people are willing to pay twice as much for the fluff. I'm not convinced Apple Mac OS is twice as good as any other OS.

You may have a point. I did say "in my opinion". ;) I'm could be jaded from working on Windows apps too long. (I worked on Windows stuff from the 3.1 era through to Windows 2000.)

Don't get me wrong - I like everything about the Mac Pro but you pay for your thrills. I can't afford to lay out that kind of scratch unnecessarily. Apple has done a nice job with the design, no doubt. Meanwhile, I have a high end Windows PC for much less money. The speed thrills me, so I don't need a Mac to get a thrill.

Re: Mac Pro

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Post by acoyfellow »

OSWJimlo wrote: post #378
spydum wrote: post #276

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I was surprised how bad it works in landscape orientation on their own ipad devices.. Alignment is wrong, scrolling is not smooth.. Overall, just bad. I could understand if I was browsing from an android platform..

What the hell is wrong with you? The 'if it were android' bit just shows how completely Apple has made us expect the web to not be open. The whole fucking point of web standards is that it doesn't matter what you browse from - if they were conformed to. But no, apple violates them every which way (and gets praised for not being the shittastic company it is to boot) and fucktards like you just accept that 'sure, apple…

Your account was made 47 minutes ago. I wish I had enough karma to downvote this.

Re: Mac Pro

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Post by Samuel_Michon »

vacri wrote: post #382
Samuel_Michon wrote: post #363

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That sounds like a plea for LED illuminated ports... like the Mac Pro will have.

How do you get that plea from "sometimes... the power is off"?

As long as the machine is plugged in, I don’t think we can speak of it as being completely off. I suspect the LED illumination will work even when the machine is turned ‘off’. Even if the computer is not plugged in, the LED illumination might work, provided the machine has a built-in battery. At this point in time, we just don’t know. I’m going by the amount of thought Apple usually puts into its products.

Re: Mac Pro

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Post by ericd »

rdl wrote: post #236
ericd wrote: post #186

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Unfortunately, I think the CAD cards and Xeons might make it impossible to price at that level, unless the base config is severely pared down.

One low-end xeon (and one ati) is pretty low end. Xeons are not that much of a premium at the lower levels. ECC RAM is worth it to me. (the question is where the low end is vs. Mac Mini; I'd consider a low end one as a HT box vs. a Mac Mini, even)

It sounds like people have them pegged as FirePro W9000s, which retail for >$1500, but that's probably the top option, with the lowest end being a much wimpier card. So you may be right.

(Also, I didn't realize they had ditched the dual-CPU approach, though that was probably a good decision)

Re: Mac Pro

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Post by mark-r »

droithomme wrote: post #281
mark-r wrote: post #233

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This is not the first time they've decided there are elements that don't need to be part of the base machine. Each time there were outcries but they were proven right in the end. When's the last time you needed an optical drive for example? And did you see the mention under Thunderbolt 2 of "add a PCI expansion chassis" - that's their answer for those who really really need expansion.

> When's the last time you needed an optical drive for example? About a dozen times each month.

And is an external unit adequate for your needs?

I understand that an internal unit might have been more convenient for you, but Apple tends to optimize for the more common needs.

Re: Mac Pro

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Post by fourstar »

btown wrote: post #231

Copywriting and product-debate aside, that's some pretty impressive frontend presentation. From what I can tell from the minified JS, they're using Require.JS for code organization, their own jQuery-like utility toolkit they call Apple Core, fully pre-rendered text everywhere, and javascript that plays and pauses two copies of the HTML5 video, one backwards and one forwards, shuffling their opacities for seamless tra…

Posting minified JS is pretty useless. Open up Chrome inspector tools and use pretty print to actually read it:

http://i.imgur.com/PHUaDSU.png

Re: Mac Pro

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Post by joeblau »

For the home user, this is fine, but one thing Apple forgot about (And they usually do) is the enterprise customer. If you're looking to replace your current setup of Mac Pros with these, how would you go about mounting these things in a rack?

Re: Mac Pro

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Post by mark-r »

smackfu wrote: post #307
mark-r wrote: post #233

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This is not the first time they've decided there are elements that don't need to be part of the base machine. Each time there were outcries but they were proven right in the end. When's the last time you needed an optical drive for example? And did you see the mention under Thunderbolt 2 of "add a PCI expansion chassis" - that's their answer for those who really really need expansion.

External optical drive is a viable substitution. External GPU is not, at least at the moment.

Apparently Apple believes that Thunderbolt 2 changes that equation.

It looks to me like they've tried hard to make sure that the included GPUs are adequate for 90% of their users, at least for today. As for tomorrow their philosophy has always preferred replacing the machine rather than upgrading it piece by piece.

Re: Mac Pro

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Post by ajays »

Not to fork the discussion, but: I'm thinking of putting together a new (Linux) PC for my needs (which are mainly number-crunching, photo processing, etc.). How much of the tech in this Mac Pro is available today to build one? I'm not sure I've seen any PCIe SSDs, for example. How about Thunderbolt 2?
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