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Re: Mac Pro

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Post by binarycrusader »

Fomite wrote: post #264

Taking a look at the site and the walk around, it eases most of my problems, but not all of them: - The RAM looks accessible enough that it can be changed/modified with ease. - That's true for the built-in drive as well, it looks like one of the "blade" type SSDs that comes in the rMBP. Even if its a slightly different form factor, I've got faith OWC will come up with solutions. Will be slightly miffed about losing a…

That's my only real complaint (without seeing the price) at the moment: the GPUs. I really want/need an nVidia option.

Re: Mac Pro

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Post by [deleted] »

Fomite wrote: post #264

Taking a look at the site and the walk around, it eases most of my problems, but not all of them: - The RAM looks accessible enough that it can be changed/modified with ease. - That's true for the built-in drive as well, it looks like one of the "blade" type SSDs that comes in the rMBP. Even if its a slightly different form factor, I've got faith OWC will come up with solutions. Will be slightly miffed about losing a…

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Re: Mac Pro

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Post by ChikkaChiChi »

for a thousand bucks I would buy a new desk and monitor to make it the center piece of my new study in my house. instead Apple will want at least five thousand and expect it to be a business class workstation.

make this the Mac mini, you sell a gazillion.

Re: Mac Pro

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Post by nwenzel »

Would be interesting to see more GPU equipped machines designed for data processing instead of just processing graphics. ("just" not to minimize the value/importance of design, photography, and art, but "just" in that there's more to GPUs that design, photography, and art.) Form + function for matrix multiplication.

Though totally unrelated to the Mac Pro (other than it being a knockoff of MacBook Air) Dell has made an interesting push for data crunchers. Their recent-ish re-launch of an Ubuntu machine [0] that enables you to simulate and then push your environment up to the cloud is an interesting, if fairly niche product.

Could the Mac Pro, with it's specific audience, the Dell XPS, and maybe even the RasberryPi, be the beginning of a much more specialized desk/laptop computing movement in the face of iPads (errr... tablets) eating the general purpose, internet surfing computer market?

[0] http://www.dell.com/us/business/p/xps-13-linux/pd

Re: Mac Pro

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Post by taude »

ansimionescu wrote: post #71

I love watching people moan about this yet unreleased product. I think the new Mac Pro episode will resemble the iPad one - lots of "ohemgee it's like just a bigger ipod, lol, how stupid do they think we are, kthx?" reactions, when in fact this product will probably push a new paradigm shift in the way workstations are built i.e. moving away from the plastic pieces of shit ubiquitously sold now. Seriously, I dare you…

This thing looks like a '90s sub-woofer. As of now, I wouldn't want this sitting on my desk as showy bling.

Re: Mac Pro

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Post by kryten »

testbro wrote: post #285
kryten wrote: post #74

Certainties: 1. Use of glue somewhere which knackers any chance of repairing it. Memory, disks and that is it. 2. Proprietary fan which will get noisy after time and cost a fortune to replace. First step will be to put it on the floor so you can't hear it... leading to... 2a. Someone is going to put a half drank coffee cup in it and blow it up. 2b. Plume of hairballs every time a cat owner fires it up as it'll suck i…

Aren't all 2a,2b,2c all applicable to other machines though?

Based on the fact it looks like a bin, feeds air from underneath and has the headphone connector on the back, no.

Re: Mac Pro

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Post by smackfu »

mark-r wrote: post #233
smackfu wrote: post #141

Earlier quoted context omitted.

This is going to be a $3000 workstation. Its processor will cost more than that "workstation" you linked to. They aren't even competing in the same space. The new "paradigm" this is pushing is that you don't need PCIe cards or internal storage. We'll see about that.

This is not the first time they've decided there are elements that don't need to be part of the base machine. Each time there were outcries but they were proven right in the end. When's the last time you needed an optical drive for example? And did you see the mention under Thunderbolt 2 of "add a PCI expansion chassis" - that's their answer for those who really really need expansion.

External optical drive is a viable substitution. External GPU is not, at least at the moment.

Re: Mac Pro

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Post by morsch »

anthonyb wrote: post #300
mojuba wrote: post #130

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Curiously, my first association was "jet engine", was amused to learn that to many it's a trash can. Am I the only one whose breath was taken away by this new design? Power desktop seriously revisited for the first time since the 80's, anyone?

Except that they have the fan backwards - suck air up from the floor... along with all of the dust and crap. Unless you're supposed to have this on your desk to show it off. I suppose that wouldn't be unusual...

The air being heated naturally flows upwards, so blowing downwards in such a design is a very bad idea. Ideally (and for it to be truly a relevant design), the whole thing is silent at the very least while idle, using very little if any fan and relying on convection to do most of the cooling.

Re: Mac Pro

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Post by Fomite »

binarycrusader wrote: post #301
Fomite wrote: post #264

Taking a look at the site and the walk around, it eases most of my problems, but not all of them: - The RAM looks accessible enough that it can be changed/modified with ease. - That's true for the built-in drive as well, it looks like one of the "blade" type SSDs that comes in the rMBP. Even if its a slightly different form factor, I've got faith OWC will come up with solutions. Will be slightly miffed about losing a…

That's my only real complaint (without seeing the price) at the moment: the GPUs. I really want/need an nVidia option.

That's where I'm at now. A FirePro is a graphic design GPU. I don't want a graphic design GPU. That's not what I do. I certainly don't want to pay for two of them.

And at the prices the Mac Pro will go for, we're also talking about comparable systems with a Titan in them. I'd much prefer that GPU, except Apple's going with a bespoke design by the looks of it.

Re: Mac Pro

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Post by Aqueous »

mojuba wrote: post #130
ansimionescu wrote: post #71

I love watching people moan about this yet unreleased product. I think the new Mac Pro episode will resemble the iPad one - lots of "ohemgee it's like just a bigger ipod, lol, how stupid do they think we are, kthx?" reactions, when in fact this product will probably push a new paradigm shift in the way workstations are built i.e. moving away from the plastic pieces of shit ubiquitously sold now. Seriously, I dare you…

Curiously, my first association was "jet engine", was amused to learn that to many it's a trash can. Am I the only one whose breath was taken away by this new design? Power desktop seriously revisited for the first time since the 80's, anyone?

I love making fun of it but of course I'm just hiding my admiration. At one point I owned an iMac G4 lamp-shade and it seems to hearken back to that design - especially the bottom vents. Ive and co clearly felt they had to come out with something as unique as that lamp-shade design (although it was discontinued, probably because it was really easy to snap in half) and new to inspire excitement about Apple again. It's really sleek, and not nearly as unwieldy as the lampshade iMac. Apple and Tesla routinely set new standards for industrial design. I predict they will sell like hotcakes, not just among professionals but for home users as well.
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