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Firefox 25 will get a major UI overhaul

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Re: Firefox 25 will get a major UI overhaul

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post #66

And Firefox continues the inexorable march towards Chromeness by removing the actual title of the page from the window chrome. Don't get me wrong, I prefer Firefox. This just strikes me as wrong; the rest of the new UI is fine.

Is a title bar really necessary, though? The vast majority of the time, the exact same sentence is repeated again in the page as a h1. More prominently. With better styling. When I have the browser open, the favicon and the few characters on the tab are usually enough to figure out what the page is, and when it's minimized, the text shows up in the taskbar and alt+tab... I'm curious, what's missing?

How about letting the user decide?

I find myself installing addons to cut or move parts of the UI back to where it was when I was used to it. Starting with the location bar ending with status bars. Additional fumbling around in the config became the normal thing to do after an major update...

I know it's nice if your are the developer and you can force stuff on your users because most of them can't do anything about it and will accept it in the end but remember one thing: you will cross a border for another part of your custormers and then somebody will come up with something new just because you forced us and then you'll lose customers.

Re: Firefox 25 will get a major UI overhaul

#103

Hi I'm Firefox and I'm trying to be just like Chrome. Maybe if I try hard enough I will eventually be indistinguishable from Chrome and then I can just give up and let Google push me out of the browser scene entirely.

Together with my little shy friend the Opera guy....

But no fear. Once they are out. New stuff will come up.

Re: Firefox 25 will get a major UI overhaul

#104
post #66

And Firefox continues the inexorable march towards Chromeness by removing the actual title of the page from the window chrome. Don't get me wrong, I prefer Firefox. This just strikes me as wrong; the rest of the new UI is fine.

That's one of the things I despise about Chrome... plus the fact that it doesn't have a title bar at all. They taking exactly the things that make Chrome less usable to me and putting them in Firefox. /sigh

It's right there in the settings: (in Chrome)

Settings > Appearance > "Use system title bar and borders".

edit: clarified I meant Chrome.

Re: Firefox 25 will get a major UI overhaul

#105
post #60

I started using Firefox for the past couple of days. I find it slower than Chrome, not page loading but in terms of being responsive. Sometimes there is an issue when I drag a word into a new tab, I would like it to search google, but it tries to go to the site. I had to reload the page a few times to listen to the changelog today and gave up and just switched back to Chrome.

Firefox will be less responsive than Chrome until the Electrolysis project makes some progress. FF runs everything in a single process, so a few heavy HTMl5 pages make the whole browser unresponsive.

Re: Firefox 25 will get a major UI overhaul

#107

Hi I'm Firefox and I'm trying to be just like Chrome. Maybe if I try hard enough I will eventually be indistinguishable from Chrome and then I can just give up and let Google push me out of the browser scene entirely.

Except they can't seem to emulate Chrome where it counts: The snappy page loads and heavy heavy caching. Regardless of benchmarks, Chrome is noticeably faster loading existing and new pages for me. Everyone else I know has the same perception.

Re: Firefox 25 will get a major UI overhaul

#108
post #104

Earlier quoted context omitted.

That's one of the things I despise about Chrome... plus the fact that it doesn't have a title bar at all. They taking exactly the things that make Chrome less usable to me and putting them in Firefox. /sigh

It's right there in the settings: (in Chrome) Settings > Appearance > "Use system title bar and borders". edit: clarified I meant Chrome.

Not on Windows :/

Re: Firefox 25 will get a major UI overhaul

#109
post #66

And Firefox continues the inexorable march towards Chromeness by removing the actual title of the page from the window chrome. Don't get me wrong, I prefer Firefox. This just strikes me as wrong; the rest of the new UI is fine.

> the rest of the new UI is fine. The seemingly inexorable chrome-ification is just wrong.

I didn't see it in the linked article, but what happens when I do Alt-V, z, r in the new UI (to pick one at random) to reset the zoom level? Will the rest of my memorized shortcuts cease working?

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