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Firefox 25 will get a major UI overhaul

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Re: Firefox 25 will get a major UI overhaul

#52

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I'm not sure what you mean by inconsistent, but I imagine the point is to give a slight depth -- better highlight the foreground tab.

The inconsistency is based around a scenario like this. Open 4 tabs. click tab 1 and then tab 3. What order do you display the tabs in? Does tab 1 overlay tab 2? If closing tabs don't to the last open tab this now means that the visual stack is not accurate to how the program operates. I understand the depth but there are better ways to show it that don't take up as much space nor have to deal with issues like visual…

The Australis inactive tabs don't overlay. Take a look at the mockups. Only the active tab has a background and border styling.

Re: Firefox 25 will get a major UI overhaul

#53

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I'm not sure what you mean by inconsistent, but I imagine the point is to give a slight depth -- better highlight the foreground tab.

The inconsistency is based around a scenario like this. Open 4 tabs. click tab 1 and then tab 3. What order do you display the tabs in? Does tab 1 overlay tab 2? If closing tabs don't to the last open tab this now means that the visual stack is not accurate to how the program operates. I understand the depth but there are better ways to show it that don't take up as much space nor have to deal with issues like visual…

Chrome stacks away from the currently focused tab. If tab 6 of 10 is focused, 6 will be in front of 7, which is in front of 8, and so on; similarly 6 is in front of 5 which is in front 4, and so on. There is a subtle visual lead to the focused tab. If you then select tab 2 for example, tabs 3 to 6 will be restacked for consistency.

Re: Firefox 25 will get a major UI overhaul

#55
post #51

Native tab on the left, please please please.

This new layout actually breaks the tree tabs plugin. It relies on tabs-on-the-bottom (which are then pushed to the left), and the new layout drops support for it.

Of course, the authors could figure out a new way to do it, but for now it breaks the add-on.

Re: Firefox 25 will get a major UI overhaul

#56

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Oh snap, now that's a UI overhaul. How's that tab interface working out? At a glance I can imagine how much more effective it is at displaying a large number of tabs in the same window. In fact, I'm finding it quite brilliant. The web at large takes advantage of vertical scrolling, so why shouldn't browsers? All of my bookmarks are already arranged in vertical lists. Even when faced with the input procedure of naviga…

> Perhaps I'm missing some disadvantages? Drag and drop sometimes stops working and you lose the ability to move those tabs around (change their order). Some pages will be too wide, at least on a small screen like mine, forcing you to scroll horizontally. Also, after every (major) update you need to (re)move the new buttons. But those are all very minor. Otherwise, it's smooth sailing.

Those bugs never happened to me. I've been using the add-on for years on the beta.

Re: Firefox 25 will get a major UI overhaul

#57
post #47

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> Perhaps I'm missing some disadvantages? Drag and drop sometimes stops working and you lose the ability to move those tabs around (change their order). Some pages will be too wide, at least on a small screen like mine, forcing you to scroll horizontally. Also, after every (major) update you need to (re)move the new buttons. But those are all very minor. Otherwise, it's smooth sailing.

When was the last major update where buttons got re-added? Are you speaking from actual experience or just postulating?

> When was the last major update where buttons got re-added?

Not so much re-added as just added. The download button (arrow) for example was added in Firefox 20.

Add-ons also tend to insert their buttons. Or even reactivate the add-ons bar. But it takes seconds to fix.

Re: Firefox 25 will get a major UI overhaul

#58

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> I haven't really been using Firefox all that much mainly due to how busy the interface is Firefox UI is as busy as you make it[1]. It's very customizable without much effort. Not that it couldn't use a refresh but I quite like it the way it is. EDIT: The commenters below get it right. Tree Style Tab[2] add-on is responsible for the tabs and you can remove the clutter by right-clicking the refresh button for example…

Oh snap, now that's a UI overhaul. How's that tab interface working out? At a glance I can imagine how much more effective it is at displaying a large number of tabs in the same window. In fact, I'm finding it quite brilliant. The web at large takes advantage of vertical scrolling, so why shouldn't browsers? All of my bookmarks are already arranged in vertical lists. Even when faced with the input procedure of naviga…

> How's that tab interface working out?

I've been using it for years, I can't see myself go back to tabs on top. That's why I can't switch to chrome.

Tabs on the left (or right) is how it is supposed to be ! Websites nowadays have a lot of horizontal space because of our new big wide screens. We don't have 4/3 anymore and all the websites were conceived for that kind of resolution (800600 or 1024768).

Also it's more practical because you can open so many tabs at the same time, you can use nesting etc...

I really don't understand why it's still not the default, or at least a native option of the browser.

Re: Firefox 25 will get a major UI overhaul

#59
post #51

Native tab on the left, please please please.

This new layout actually breaks the tree tabs plugin. It relies on tabs-on-the-bottom (which are then pushed to the left), and the new layout drops support for it. Of course, the authors could figure out a new way to do it, but for now it breaks the add-on.

God damn, this was one of the huge reason I was still sticking with Firefox...

Re: Firefox 25 will get a major UI overhaul

#60
I started using Firefox for the past couple of days.

I find it slower than Chrome, not page loading but in terms of being responsive.

Sometimes there is an issue when I drag a word into a new tab, I would like it to search google, but it tries to go to the site.

I had to reload the page a few times to listen to the changelog today and gave up and just switched back to Chrome.

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