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Firefox 25 will get a major UI overhaul

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Re: Firefox 25 will get a major UI overhaul

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Post by yohui »

srijan4 wrote: post #16
spindritf wrote: post #14

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> I haven't really been using Firefox all that much mainly due to how busy the interface is Firefox UI is as busy as you make it[1]. It's very customizable without much effort. Not that it couldn't use a refresh but I quite like it the way it is. EDIT: The commenters below get it right. Tree Style Tab[2] add-on is responsible for the tabs and you can remove the clutter by right-clicking the refresh button for example…

What are you using for those side tabs?

Probably 'Tree Style Tab': https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/tree-style-ta...

Re: Firefox 25 will get a major UI overhaul

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Post by loupeabody »

spindritf wrote: post #14
loupeabody wrote: post #8

Here are some very detailed mockups(?) on major platforms whose links are kind of tucked into the parent link: Linux: http://people.mozilla.com/~shorlander/files/australis-design... Windows 7: http://people.mozilla.com/~shorlander/files/australis-design... Windows XP: http://people.mozilla.com/~shorlander/files/australis-design... OSX: http://people.mozilla.com/~shorlander/files/australis-design... I personally think…

> I haven't really been using Firefox all that much mainly due to how busy the interface is Firefox UI is as busy as you make it[1]. It's very customizable without much effort. Not that it couldn't use a refresh but I quite like it the way it is. EDIT: The commenters below get it right. Tree Style Tab[2] add-on is responsible for the tabs and you can remove the clutter by right-clicking the refresh button for example…

Oh snap, now that's a UI overhaul. How's that tab interface working out?

At a glance I can imagine how much more effective it is at displaying a large number of tabs in the same window.

In fact, I'm finding it quite brilliant. The web at large takes advantage of vertical scrolling, so why shouldn't browsers? All of my bookmarks are already arranged in vertical lists.

Even when faced with the input procedure of navigating my cursor to a browser tab, vertically stacked tabs have a clear advantage (for trackpad/thinkpad nipple users like myself):

To move my cursor up and down (again, with a trackpad) all I have to do is bend a finger at the knuckle. When moving the cursor a substantial distance left or right, I torque my whole wrist slightly or reposition it entirely.

Maybe that's splitting hairs... I'm rather starry-eyed at the moment seeing your Firefox interface. Perhaps I'm missing some disadvantages?

Re: Firefox 25 will get a major UI overhaul

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Post by [deleted] »

BoppreH wrote: post #19

Whenever I download a new browser, the first thing I do is remove as much UI as possible. This saves space, removes clutter and generally makes it more robust. My Firefox currently looks like this: http://i.imgur.com/93yRvie.png?1 A browser is the software I use most often, every UI change has great impact. Can't wait to see what they are bringing.

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Re: Firefox 25 will get a major UI overhaul

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Post by hnriot »

w1ntermute wrote: post #6
kijin wrote: post #5

It looks beautiful in Windows and OSX. It looks less awful than the current theme in Linux, thanks to the menu button (which usually occupies the position of the leftmost tab in Linux and isn't even orange) being moved to the same location as where Chrome has it. But there still seems to be a lot of wasted space in the titlebar of the Linux theme. I remember reading that this is because certain opendesktop UI guideli…

To be honest, I really don't care about the UI on Linux so much as the terrible lag. For whatever reason, Mozilla just can't get its shit together when it comes to fixing lag on Linux. For this reason alone, I continue to use Chrome, even though I'd love to move back to Firefox and get all the customizability that it's known for.

I'm not sure what you mean by lag, chrome has preloading, possibly that's what you're seeing (negative lag?). I use Ubuntu 12.04 and don't see any "lag". FF is snappy. I use chrome most, but mainly because I prefer it's developer tools and memory footprint, but neither of them are very economical with memory.

Re: Firefox 25 will get a major UI overhaul

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Post by BoppreH »

[deleted] wrote: post #24
BoppreH wrote: post #19

Whenever I download a new browser, the first thing I do is remove as much UI as possible. This saves space, removes clutter and generally makes it more robust. My Firefox currently looks like this: http://i.imgur.com/93yRvie.png?1 A browser is the software I use most often, every UI change has great impact. Can't wait to see what they are bringing.

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Saves space, but you can't read the window titles that way. And the titles are vital when you have multiple documents open with the same program.

On Ubuntu I use the default Unity taskbar and I always have problems when various instances of the same program pile up.

Re: Firefox 25 will get a major UI overhaul

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Post by spindritf »

loupeabody wrote: post #22
spindritf wrote: post #14

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> I haven't really been using Firefox all that much mainly due to how busy the interface is Firefox UI is as busy as you make it[1]. It's very customizable without much effort. Not that it couldn't use a refresh but I quite like it the way it is. EDIT: The commenters below get it right. Tree Style Tab[2] add-on is responsible for the tabs and you can remove the clutter by right-clicking the refresh button for example…

Oh snap, now that's a UI overhaul. How's that tab interface working out? At a glance I can imagine how much more effective it is at displaying a large number of tabs in the same window. In fact, I'm finding it quite brilliant. The web at large takes advantage of vertical scrolling, so why shouldn't browsers? All of my bookmarks are already arranged in vertical lists. Even when faced with the input procedure of naviga…

> Perhaps I'm missing some disadvantages?

Drag and drop sometimes stops working and you lose the ability to move those tabs around (change their order). Some pages will be too wide, at least on a small screen like mine, forcing you to scroll horizontally. Also, after every (major) update you need to (re)move the new buttons.

But those are all very minor. Otherwise, it's smooth sailing.

Re: Firefox 25 will get a major UI overhaul

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Post by thezilch »

saratogacx wrote: post #12
loupeabody wrote: post #8

Here are some very detailed mockups(?) on major platforms whose links are kind of tucked into the parent link: Linux: http://people.mozilla.com/~shorlander/files/australis-design... Windows 7: http://people.mozilla.com/~shorlander/files/australis-design... Windows XP: http://people.mozilla.com/~shorlander/files/australis-design... OSX: http://people.mozilla.com/~shorlander/files/australis-design... I personally think…

Why does it seem like everyone is moving to those curved tabs? They've always seemed like a waste of space and the overlapping bits make for an inconsistent tab UI.

I'm not sure what you mean by inconsistent, but I imagine the point is to give a slight depth -- better highlight the foreground tab.

Re: Firefox 25 will get a major UI overhaul

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Post by rcthompson »

saratogacx wrote: post #12
loupeabody wrote: post #8

Here are some very detailed mockups(?) on major platforms whose links are kind of tucked into the parent link: Linux: http://people.mozilla.com/~shorlander/files/australis-design... Windows 7: http://people.mozilla.com/~shorlander/files/australis-design... Windows XP: http://people.mozilla.com/~shorlander/files/australis-design... OSX: http://people.mozilla.com/~shorlander/files/australis-design... I personally think…

Why does it seem like everyone is moving to those curved tabs? They've always seemed like a waste of space and the overlapping bits make for an inconsistent tab UI.

Non-vertical tab edges make it easier to see which tab is on top.
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