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Firefox 25 will get a major UI overhaul

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Re: Firefox 25 will get a major UI overhaul

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Post by gluxon »

imalolz wrote: post #15
loupeabody wrote: post #8

Here are some very detailed mockups(?) on major platforms whose links are kind of tucked into the parent link: Linux: http://people.mozilla.com/~shorlander/files/australis-design... Windows 7: http://people.mozilla.com/~shorlander/files/australis-design... Windows XP: http://people.mozilla.com/~shorlander/files/australis-design... OSX: http://people.mozilla.com/~shorlander/files/australis-design... I personally think…

I love firefox and use it daily on all platforms. What bothers me a bit (just a bit) about the design is that only on linux the menu bar row sticks out [1], while on Windows or Mac they were able to collapse it or hide it quite well. I suppose this is due to the GUI implementation constraints on the platform, but it is still very noticable when I switch from my mac to ubuntu. [1]: http://i.imgur.com/qDUuOXH.png

Yeah, check if you have the firefox-globalmenu apt package installed. If so, check for "Global Menu Integration" in extensions.

Re: Firefox 25 will get a major UI overhaul

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Post by tambourine_man »

loupeabody wrote: post #8

Here are some very detailed mockups(?) on major platforms whose links are kind of tucked into the parent link: Linux: http://people.mozilla.com/~shorlander/files/australis-design... Windows 7: http://people.mozilla.com/~shorlander/files/australis-design... Windows XP: http://people.mozilla.com/~shorlander/files/australis-design... OSX: http://people.mozilla.com/~shorlander/files/australis-design... I personally think…

This is Chrome's definitive legitimation as the standard browser UI.

I personally think it sucks (on OS X, that is). How anyone can think that a 10px window dragging area is fine is beyond me.

I just hope Apple can step up its game with Safari.

Re: Firefox 25 will get a major UI overhaul

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Post by gluxon »

msujaws wrote: post #47
spindritf wrote: post #28

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> Perhaps I'm missing some disadvantages? Drag and drop sometimes stops working and you lose the ability to move those tabs around (change their order). Some pages will be too wide, at least on a small screen like mine, forcing you to scroll horizontally. Also, after every (major) update you need to (re)move the new buttons. But those are all very minor. Otherwise, it's smooth sailing.

When was the last major update where buttons got re-added? Are you speaking from actual experience or just postulating?

Firefox 4-20 hasn't had any toolbar button changes. You really can't count third-party addons as something that Mozilla changes to the toolbar.

Re: Firefox 25 will get a major UI overhaul

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Post by baby »

dantiberian wrote: post #39
spindritf wrote: post #14

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> I haven't really been using Firefox all that much mainly due to how busy the interface is Firefox UI is as busy as you make it[1]. It's very customizable without much effort. Not that it couldn't use a refresh but I quite like it the way it is. EDIT: The commenters below get it right. Tree Style Tab[2] add-on is responsible for the tabs and you can remove the clutter by right-clicking the refresh button for example…

> Firefox UI is as busy as you make it For almost all Firefox users, the UI is as busy as Mozilla makes it.

1. I don't believe Firefox UI is busy

2. We always had those kind of "busy" UI since IE, Netscape, Opera and Firefox.

3. Chrome comes around, makes a very simplistic UI and now many people assume that it's the only way.

IMO Chrome is just too simplistic, It's beautiful yes but is it efficient? For example, the first thing I do when I install Firefox on a machine is to display the menu bar. And I think it's a shame there is no more status bar as well.

Re: Firefox 25 will get a major UI overhaul

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Post by mistermann »

baby wrote: post #58
loupeabody wrote: post #22

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Oh snap, now that's a UI overhaul. How's that tab interface working out? At a glance I can imagine how much more effective it is at displaying a large number of tabs in the same window. In fact, I'm finding it quite brilliant. The web at large takes advantage of vertical scrolling, so why shouldn't browsers? All of my bookmarks are already arranged in vertical lists. Even when faced with the input procedure of naviga…

> How's that tab interface working out? I've been using it for years, I can't see myself go back to tabs on top. That's why I can't switch to chrome. Tabs on the left (or right) is how it is supposed to be ! Websites nowadays have a lot of horizontal space because of our new big wide screens. We don't have 4/3 anymore and all the websites were conceived for that kind of resolution (800 600 or 1024 768). Also it's mor…

Agreed, I would never consider using another browser unless they had vertical tabs. My Firefox typically crashes once per day but treestyle tabs make it worth it.

Re: Firefox 25 will get a major UI overhaul

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Post by RHSeeger »

DHowett wrote: post #66

And Firefox continues the inexorable march towards Chromeness by removing the actual title of the page from the window chrome. Don't get me wrong, I prefer Firefox. This just strikes me as wrong; the rest of the new UI is fine.

That's one of the things I despise about Chrome... plus the fact that it doesn't have a title bar at all. They taking exactly the things that make Chrome less usable to me and putting them in Firefox. /sigh

Re: Firefox 25 will get a major UI overhaul

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Post by shmerl »

loupeabody wrote: post #8

Here are some very detailed mockups(?) on major platforms whose links are kind of tucked into the parent link: Linux: http://people.mozilla.com/~shorlander/files/australis-design... Windows 7: http://people.mozilla.com/~shorlander/files/australis-design... Windows XP: http://people.mozilla.com/~shorlander/files/australis-design... OSX: http://people.mozilla.com/~shorlander/files/australis-design... I personally think…

I think Firefox should switch to Qt, since it allows more flexible management. For example GTK prevents it from drawing in the title bar.

Re: Firefox 25 will get a major UI overhaul

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Post by shmerl »

imalolz wrote: post #15
loupeabody wrote: post #8

Here are some very detailed mockups(?) on major platforms whose links are kind of tucked into the parent link: Linux: http://people.mozilla.com/~shorlander/files/australis-design... Windows 7: http://people.mozilla.com/~shorlander/files/australis-design... Windows XP: http://people.mozilla.com/~shorlander/files/australis-design... OSX: http://people.mozilla.com/~shorlander/files/australis-design... I personally think…

I love firefox and use it daily on all platforms. What bothers me a bit (just a bit) about the design is that only on linux the menu bar row sticks out [1], while on Windows or Mac they were able to collapse it or hide it quite well. I suppose this is due to the GUI implementation constraints on the platform, but it is still very noticable when I switch from my mac to ubuntu. [1]: http://i.imgur.com/qDUuOXH.png

I'd say let them switch to using Qt on Linux instead of GTK, and that problem could be solved.

Re: Firefox 25 will get a major UI overhaul

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Post by mlex »

I'm actually kind of sad they're moving away from "square" tabs, as that was one of the design choices they've made that I always really liked. I'm hoping they'll provide an option in the new release, or at least that there will be an add-on that allows me to revert back. I'd love to be able to have my tabs in the title-bar with the current style.

Current setup that I'm happy with: http://i.imgur.com/lf99vO3.png

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