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Poll: Full-time software engineers in the Bay Area, what's your annual salary?

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Re: Poll: Full-time software engineers in the Bay Area, what's your annual salary?

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Post by [deleted] »

mratzloff wrote: post #221
tharshan09 wrote: post #148

Holy crap. I am student in the UK, recently did a internship at a fairly well known company. Got paid £16k for that year. If I were to get a full time job, it would be around ~30k a year. These figures are insane, people have told me in person this is what the figures are really like in SF but wow. I think applying for a couple of jobs in SF etc just for kicks will be one of goals when I finish uni. I know the term W…

San Francisco isn't the only place in the US that makes software, you know. Seattle is a great place to live, has better salaries than SF considering cost of living, and has a healthy startup culture.

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Re: Poll: Full-time software engineers in the Bay Area, what's your annual salary?

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Post by WalterSear »

wpietri wrote: post #277
WalterSear wrote: post #267

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That's a really stupid way to manage your finances. And your self esteem.

But very human. Desires are numberless; salary never is. People also tend to assume that what's going on now is what will keep going on. And that's not even counting the trillion dollars spent each year trying to get people to spend their money.

If you can't manage your money or your emotional relationship to it, the salary is still not the problem.

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Post by encoderer »

cglace wrote: post #337
encoderer wrote: post #263

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Textminer is right, no need to mention your current wage. But honestly, it seriously depends on what technologies you have experience with. But to give you a number, you could very easily get $125k. I bet if you somehow got 100 offers, the vast majority of them would be normally distributed between $110 and $140k. Mitigating factors: 1. The universe of companies willing to fly-in a candidate and pay for relocation is…

Interesting, that number is about the same as it is here in Atlanta but the cost of living is drastically lower.

The average salary for a software engineer in ATL is 110-140k?

I talked to 2 companies in Atlanta in 2010ish (MailChimp and a smaller private company) and their salary ranges were well below that ($90-110k iirc). I'm surprised to hear it's so high!

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Post by smartician »

joshAg wrote: post #318
hpagey wrote: post #204

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The later part of the above statement is an incorrect. You can change a job while your green card is being processed provided, a) You have applied for your 485. b) Its been 180 days since you have applied for it. This process is called invoking AC21. In my opinion and experience H1B candidates are paid on par with other candidates. I saw no salary discrimination at least with decent and reputed companies. I agree H1b…

I did some more research after leaving my last comment, and the part i was talking about was "New employment must be the 'same or similar' occupational classification," [1] which according to my coworkers means you can't switch amongst QA engineer, dev/software engineer, and manager. The dev QA switch probably isn't very common, but dev/qa -> management is apparently an issue, since green-cards for Indians with a mas…

Note that all this only applies to those whose priority dates became current due to the USCIS fiasco of July 2007, and filed I-485 at that time. Everyone who started the GC process later and is waiting for their PD to become current cannot invoke AC21. Frustrating!

From the page you linked:

"Hundreds of thousands of people were able to file I-485 applications under the July Visa Bulletin of 2007"

Re: Poll: Full-time software engineers in the Bay Area, what's your annual salary?

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Post by hpagey »

hpagey wrote: post #204
joshAg wrote: post #152

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because h1b visas require you to stay employed (you have like 30 days before they deport you) and they require you to keep the same job title throughout the whole greencard process or your waiting period starts over.

The later part of the above statement is an incorrect. You can change a job while your green card is being processed provided, a) You have applied for your 485. b) Its been 180 days since you have applied for it. This process is called invoking AC21. In my opinion and experience H1B candidates are paid on par with other candidates. I saw no salary discrimination at least with decent and reputed companies. I agree H1b…

Adding to my previous post,

For a GC application to apply for 485 your PD needs to be current. India EB2 and EB3 is heavily backlogged. China EB2 situation is better than India EB2. If a GC application's or its spouse's country of birth is not India or China (ROW category, Rest Of World) , the PD moves really fast in EB2. I think its current now.

Re: Poll: Full-time software engineers in the Bay Area, what's your annual salary?

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Post by hpagey »

smartician wrote: post #344
joshAg wrote: post #318

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I did some more research after leaving my last comment, and the part i was talking about was "New employment must be the 'same or similar' occupational classification," [1] which according to my coworkers means you can't switch amongst QA engineer, dev/software engineer, and manager. The dev QA switch probably isn't very common, but dev/qa -> management is apparently an issue, since green-cards for Indians with a mas…

Note that all this only applies to those whose priority dates became current due to the USCIS fiasco of July 2007, and filed I-485 at that time. Everyone who started the GC process later and is waiting for their PD to become current cannot invoke AC21. Frustrating! From the page you linked: "Hundreds of thousands of people were able to file I-485 applications under the July Visa Bulletin of 2007"

Correct, so it was not a fiasco for people who were able to apply for Adjustment of Status i-485. This happened in 2009 too. I hope it keeps on happening every few years. At least people can get EAD which gives you ability to work anywhere in the US.

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Post by matsur »

crypto5 wrote: post #340
mratzloff wrote: post #221

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San Francisco isn't the only place in the US that makes software, you know. Seattle is a great place to live, has better salaries than SF considering cost of living, and has a healthy startup culture.

Just curious: and what is your estimation of salary ranges for Java SWE in Seattle? How many sexy start-ups/companies there(I think not too many). Can diff in salary between Seattle and SF be covered by $500-$1000 savings on apartment rent?

Just looking at Microsoft/Amazon/Google salaries in Puget Sound, they are in the same ballpark as the results of this poll.

Another difference: WA state has no state income tax.

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Post by nextstep »

mc-lovin wrote: post #259
nextstep wrote: post #83

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On a touch screen, so I accidentally upvoted you. Your comment perfectly embodies everything I hate about the Bay Area, and recently HN. The smugness seems very ignorant; so many people have convinced themselves that they are smarter than the rest of the world. I'm sick of the culture of Silicon Valley.

And I think many in the valley are sick of your false egalitarianism. Some people smarter than other people. And those people, on average will get paid more. I don't see a whole lot of rage when people talk about how it takes good people skills to get a lot of jobs. But the moment intelligence becomes a requirement, everyone suddenly thinks that's unfair, or there is no such thing as intelligence. I don't deny that t…

I think your comment is a great example of the smugness that I see too commonly in this bubble. You're basically saying, "we're so smart here in the valley, and that's why we're paid more." Your comment has nothing to do with what I was talking about.
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