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Poll: Full-time software engineers in the Bay Area, what's your annual salary?

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Re: Poll: Full-time software engineers in the Bay Area, what's your annual salary?

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Not thinking doesn't imply not beingness. One might also say - they're not smart enough to realize that they are smarter. [But this is another PoV].

Engineers don't have any intrinsic smartness advantage over non-engineers. We're (much) better at some things and (much) worse at others.

I guess I should have added some smiles to my previous comments :)

Re: Poll: Full-time software engineers in the Bay Area, what's your annual salary?

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Why will living costs double? Cars and fuel are just as cheap and sv housing costs are pretty close to London averages for example.

Fuel is indeed rather more expensive in Europe (certainly UK, plus single person's sample abroad). :/

Everybody I know who's gone to America has just ended up buying a larger car with a bigger engine to compensate for the prices. (By European standards, driving-related articles seem to be very cheap in America; obviously fuel is the most famous example, but new cars are inexpensive too.) So I'm sure their total car-related expenditure is about the same.

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Bad options. The choices should increase by a fixed percent over previous one, instead of a constant fixed amount. Who cares if someone gets 280k instead of 290k?

Oh crap, you're right. I like your idea much more than the lame increments I picked. Next time I'll use a logarithm or something.

Don't use a logarithm. Most salaries are going to be the same order of magnitude.

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depressing, midwest software engineer here, 6 years experience 60k.

In my country, folks with 6 years of experience make around 12-16k. For us, freelancing pays manyfolds higher than regular jobs.

What is your country?

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0.05% of $40MM is $20k, which is not "Lifechanging".

If they can't afford to pay a market salary, you should be getting at least 0.5% (and probably more like 1%). Still not life changing at 40mm with no dilution (200-400k), but a little more meaningful.

Dilution isn't the only thing to worry about. This post has a pretty good treatment: http://rob.by/2013/negotiating-your-startup-job-offer/ It's pretty unlikely you'll see anywhere near those numbers.

Re: Poll: Full-time software engineers in the Bay Area, what's your annual salary?

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As always, voluntary response data are worthless. https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=5538059 Good luck to all of you looking for higher salaries. I hope you gain the salary you desire, and more knowledge of statistics along the way.

voluntary response data is flawed I agree, but I hesitate to call this worthless. I'd plaster warning signs all over the place alarming people to think through their reasoning and consider all the biases that would have taken place in the poll. (come to think of it, if the poll data incites that kind of skeptical thinking in some of its readers, that in itself might make the endeavor worthwhile)

I wouldn't call it worthless either ... and there are enough responses that you can see a peak without graphing it. So my guess is that people are responding truthfully but the bigger issue is that we don't know how many years of experience each of the respondents has.

Re: Poll: Full-time software engineers in the Bay Area, what's your annual salary?

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I think you can draw those conclusions: if you move here you can expect to double your current salary. Not covered by the poll is the fact that your living expenses will likely more than double, especially if you have to use a car to get to your job. Your vacation time will be cut in half. Health care expenses may rise. Bottom line is be prepared for some decline in your current standard of living. At the same time,…

Why will living costs double? Cars and fuel are just as cheap and sv housing costs are pretty close to London averages for example.

Lower than central London actually - though London does have better public transport so commuting from 50/70 miles away isn't that much of a drag

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depressing, midwest software engineer here, 6 years experience 60k.

Hah, be thankful you're in America. Third-world programmers get half that if they're good.

Even in rest of the developed world the average programmer doesn't earn U$150k + bonus.
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