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Re: Xbox, A New Generation Revealed (livesteam)

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Most annoying to me, is we're 30 minutes into the reveal, and they've still not discussed games. Literally, we've had about 7 seconds of a game playing in the background. As far as I people can tell, this would (so far) seem to be a voice controlled cable box. Oh, and it looks like a shiny VCR. Bleh. Edit: Ah, at 31 minutes, we have a games developer. Pity it's EA, but c'est la vie.

Do you get pissed at iPhone reveals when they don't talk about making phone calls at all? Of course the gaming console can play games and the graphics will be better as well. The selling point is that it's not just another game console. It's a powerful PC in your living room, it'd be a waste if all it was doing was playing games.

I think you missed the point. Its no about whether it can play games or no- its about if there are any innovations in the feature set than before.

If iPhone reveals had innovations in the way we make phone calls- then yes that would be very interesting to watch. In fact when Apple released iOS6, they did talk about this, ie. regarding how you can choose actions when receiving a call.

Re: Xbox, A New Generation Revealed (livesteam)

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The average consumer? Of course. They want as few fiddly bits as possible. They want their stuff to just work.

Then they want an Apple TV or a Roku. My wife's grandma can and does use an Apple TV to watch Netflix. There's no way in hell she could ever navigate the UI disaster that is the XBox 360.

But everyone can speak, right? "Xbox, watch Netflix" --> instantly looking at Netflix. No need for multiple or big universal remotes, no switching inputs, etc.

I love my Roku, and I have no plans to get an Xbox 360 as I'm sure many of the features will require an XBL subscription. But the vision? I'm there with the vision.

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No one can down-vote posts, but posts that require attention (moderator related?) can be flagged to indicate that the link is to something that is outright bad (spam, inflamatory content, false information etc) and if it gets flagged by a lot of people it falls down the front page. There's probably something else I don't know about the ranking algorithm though.

Do users who abuse the flagging feature get penalized?

I lost my ability to flag. I have no idea why, I assume I flagged one too many posts that ended up as popular. Just as well. One less distraction for me.

Re: Xbox, A New Generation Revealed (livesteam)

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Do users who abuse the flagging feature get penalized?

I don't think so, not for just flagging but there does seem to be a way HN can find this type of behaviour and ignore the actions of users that abuse the voting system. read this for some more info http://www.jacquesmattheij.com/The+Unofficial+HN+FAQ

Thanks for the link.

Re: Xbox, A New Generation Revealed (livesteam)

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From the web: "8 gigs of RAM, USB 3.0, Wi-Fi Direct, a Blu-Ray disc drive, 64-bit architecture and "practically silent operation." Super fast switching of TV inputs between TV, Gaming, Skype,IE etc. Runs the Windows NT kernel. Kinect 2.0 also gets a substantial upgrade. Whitten promised the integrated camera will have a wider field of view, and the sensor will be able to detect more joints, to include rotation of wri…

"read your heartrate" reminded me of https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ONZcjs1Pjmk (video to MIT paper submitted to SIGGRAPH about emphasizing video features, blood flow among them)

There's an app for that: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=4062555

Re: Xbox, A New Generation Revealed (livesteam)

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Did they discuss how you get TV onto the XBOX? Are they offering a service to get TV via your internet connection? I didn't see a coax port on the back of it...Or is this just an extension of windows media center and you need a PC in the background to act as the tuner?

There is an HDMI input to connect your existing cable/satellite receiver. See bullet point #6: http://d35lb3dl296zwu.cloudfront.net/uploads/photo/image/114...

Hmm, that could be it but they were showing a guide within the Xbox One interface if I am not mistaken. I guess they could be showing their own guide and then just sending a message to the cable box telling it what channel to switch to. Definitely interested in hearing more about how they see this working.

Re: Xbox, A New Generation Revealed (livesteam)

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That didn't stop Apple from naming the newest iPhone the "iPhone 5", despite being the sixth.

Yeah, man. Why did this stupid developer call her newest release "Program 2"?! It’s her third release, after all, she already released Program 1.0 and Program 1.1. To want to call the iPhone 5 iPhone 6 is so insane, I cannot fathom how anyone could come up with this crazy idea.

It would be more like calling it Program 1 after releasing Program and Program Upgrade.

Re: Xbox, A New Generation Revealed (livesteam)

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Then they want an Apple TV or a Roku. My wife's grandma can and does use an Apple TV to watch Netflix. There's no way in hell she could ever navigate the UI disaster that is the XBox 360.

But everyone can speak, right? "Xbox, watch Netflix" --> instantly looking at Netflix. No need for multiple or big universal remotes, no switching inputs, etc. I love my Roku, and I have no plans to get an Xbox 360 as I'm sure many of the features will require an XBL subscription. But the vision? I'm there with the vision.

So far these "talk to your TV" features haven't worked out, and is it really worth the (guessing) $300 premium over a $99 Apple TV? No doubt if there's a good way to do voice control on a TV, Apple's going to figure it out before Microsoft does.

Re: Xbox, A New Generation Revealed (livesteam)

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Or Sony calling PSOne a modified/updated version of the first Playstation.

That actually was the same thing as a PS1 and they stuck to that convention. The PS2 slim's official name is the PSTwo.

Actually, no, they abandoned that convention. The PS2 slim's official name is the PS2. It just has a different part number.

Re: Xbox, A New Generation Revealed (livesteam)

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post #88

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But everyone can speak, right? "Xbox, watch Netflix" --> instantly looking at Netflix. No need for multiple or big universal remotes, no switching inputs, etc. I love my Roku, and I have no plans to get an Xbox 360 as I'm sure many of the features will require an XBL subscription. But the vision? I'm there with the vision.

So far these "talk to your TV" features haven't worked out, and is it really worth the (guessing) $300 premium over a $99 Apple TV? No doubt if there's a good way to do voice control on a TV, Apple's going to figure it out before Microsoft does.

I agree at the moment. I do have Kinect and had high hopes for the voice commands, but as yet they just take too long to register. However, if it's as good as today's demo implied then we'll be pretty close to, if not at, the level that makes it the simplest (not cheapest) option.

> No doubt if there's a good way to do voice control on a TV, Apple's going to figure it out before Microsoft does.

I don't have the same blind faith. Apple hasn't put themselves far enough in the living room for me to wait for them. Sure, they got Apple TV, but that seems like barely a side project for them. It's not as good as the cheaper and more versatile Roku, and it's not as bold in thinking as the Xbox One (or even the Xbox 360).

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