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Release of Diaspora v0.1.0.0

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Re: Release of Diaspora v0.1.0.0

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Post by BuddhaSource »

tstactplsignore wrote: post #2

I have never thought the Diaspora project would succeed, because it's the social network nobody wants. Honestly I think that in the startup community there has been an enormous failure to understand what makes Facebook so popular. The most important features of Facebook are not the wall, and they're not sharing statuses or links. The most important features of Facebook, are: (1) Chat with a strong mobile app- for man…

Purpose is a driving force to get started. Well having chat, photos, status etc come default to any social network platform in 2013.

As for Facebook connecting with Harvard students was one purpose but more than that it was "Relationship Status" that gave them instant growth. Everyone was curious & everyone signed up! This resulted in network effect.

Re: Release of Diaspora v0.1.0.0

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Post by shmerl »

mehrzad wrote: post #49
shmerl wrote: post #45

Earlier quoted context omitted.

How is it vaporware when it's a working and functional social network? It's not as feature rich as it could be - there are a lot of things to improve there. But it's working, which is NOT vaporware by any means.

I signed up for an invite around the time it was announced. It took a while before even an alpha was released. Diaspora has unfortunately stagnated. The future rests with Status.net, Tent.io, or App.net in this field.

You don't need invites - there are many pods with open registration. I'm sure there are many projects that aim for the future. Diaspora is actively developed, which shows that it aims for the future too. Your examples are core technologies, not end user social networks. May be Diaspora will use them as the inner federation mechanism, who knows. There is an on-going effort to redesign Diaspora's federation architecture.

Re: Release of Diaspora v0.1.0.0

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Post by shmerl »

mh- wrote: post #48
shmerl wrote: post #41

Earlier quoted context omitted.

You could say that if no users would join Diaspora. Yet, more come constantly, so you can't say that it didn't gain traction.

are there any publicly-available metrics on Diaspora adoption, engagement?

There were public statistics published at: https://diasp.eu/stats.html

Right now the data is down. It looks temporarily. Keep an eye on the site.

Re: Release of Diaspora v0.1.0.0

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Post by onedev »

dominotw wrote: post #34
tstactplsignore wrote: post #2

I have never thought the Diaspora project would succeed, because it's the social network nobody wants. Honestly I think that in the startup community there has been an enormous failure to understand what makes Facebook so popular. The most important features of Facebook are not the wall, and they're not sharing statuses or links. The most important features of Facebook, are: (1) Chat with a strong mobile app- for man…

I use none of these features you mentioned.

I use all of them (as do my friends).

Different people use the service in different ways. Who would have thought 1.11 billion people are different from each other? Crazy how that works huh?

Re: Release of Diaspora v0.1.0.0

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Post by onedev »

NegativeK wrote: post #39
fudged71 wrote: post #36

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That's why facebook does small releases of beta features to gauge user feedback. They don't want to piss off lots of people at once. And whenever they make a large change to the settings, they make an equally large change to the UI so that people discuss the new look rather than the concerns over the settings. They've become too smart to lose their place as #1.

> They've become too smart to lose their place as #1. You don't believe that'll last forever, do you? Facebook can innovate until the wee hours of the morning, but if a significant social group (I'm thinking young people, but I suppose it doesn't have to be) goes with another platform simply for fashion reasons, Facebook could slowly die off as users migrate away.

Let the number 1.11 billion sink into your head for a second.

What do these people all have in common besides a need for food, water, and shelter? Facebook.

Crazy isn't it?

So that's why I don't think a couple million people leaving will affect the company in any way shape or form.

Re: Release of Diaspora v0.1.0.0

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Post by Joeboy »

shmerl wrote: post #41
Joeboy wrote: post #6

It's hard to see this getting traction now, but I'm still glad it exists. Maybe Facebook will somehow fuck up badly enough to push people onto Diaspora, although I can't really see how at this point.

You could say that if no users would join Diaspora. Yet, more come constantly, so you can't say that it didn't gain traction.

Joining Diaspora doesn't count for much in itself. I just checked and I have nine "real life" friends on Diaspora, but the last time any of them posted there was four months ago. Posting there is basically posting into a black hole. I used to post there and do the "share on Facebook" thing, but that doesn't seem to have worked for a while.

Re: Release of Diaspora v0.1.0.0

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Post by shmerl »

mh- wrote: post #48
shmerl wrote: post #41

Earlier quoted context omitted.

You could say that if no users would join Diaspora. Yet, more come constantly, so you can't say that it didn't gain traction.

are there any publicly-available metrics on Diaspora adoption, engagement?

It's working now.

Re: Release of Diaspora v0.1.0.0

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Post by mehrzad »

shmerl wrote: post #52
mehrzad wrote: post #49

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I signed up for an invite around the time it was announced. It took a while before even an alpha was released. Diaspora has unfortunately stagnated. The future rests with Status.net, Tent.io, or App.net in this field.

You don't need invites - there are many pods with open registration. I'm sure there are many projects that aim for the future. Diaspora is actively developed, which shows that it aims for the future too. Your examples are core technologies, not end user social networks. May be Diaspora will use them as the inner federation mechanism, who knows. There is an on-going effort to redesign Diaspora's federation architectur…

>You don't need invites

Right, today you don't. But for the first several months you did.

Re: Release of Diaspora v0.1.0.0

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Post by shmerl »

mehrzad wrote: post #58
shmerl wrote: post #52

Earlier quoted context omitted.

You don't need invites - there are many pods with open registration. I'm sure there are many projects that aim for the future. Diaspora is actively developed, which shows that it aims for the future too. Your examples are core technologies, not end user social networks. May be Diaspora will use them as the inner federation mechanism, who knows. There is an on-going effort to redesign Diaspora's federation architectur…

>You don't need invites Right, today you don't. But for the first several months you did.

Only on the joindiaspora pod. Many other pods never had invites and were always open for registration. It's federated, don't forget.

Re: Release of Diaspora v0.1.0.0

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Post by jokoon »

garrettlarson wrote: post #38
jokoon wrote: post #23

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> Does Diaspora have a strong chat? It doesn't have chat at all. Diaspora wanted to make an app so that servers can communicate between each others. There are already tons of chat protocols, creating another one would be stupid. diaspora would not host anything, while facebook make both the app and the hosting, and keeps the data. Facebook also failed to implement some sort of craigslist, which is something that woul…

> Facebook also failed to implement some sort of craigslist, which is something that would really serve a big purpose for people in general (advertise for any sort of stuff, jobs, dating, help needed, local announcements...). I don't understand why they don't do that. Facebook introduced Marketplace in 2007: https://blog.facebook.com/blog.php?post=2383962130

Do people really use this ? It's not a facebook feature anymore, it's oodle, and it's some kind of weird app. It's a fail.

Anyways facebook is really an ass, it did not let me login because I tried to from a public wifi, even by resetting my password with my email, I had to try it on an old account. They are so many phishing on facebook it's not even funny.

I'm sure zuckerberg is laughing his ass off when he's surrounded by all the salesmen type who wants to do this and that with facebook. I wish he could just quit facebook asap and try to make new projects. Or maybe he's totally fine with it, but I doubt he's thinking the site really evolved at all in terms of features.

All that facebook was is a privacy outrage, bad hopes and huge datacenters, and a lost opportunity to work with google. And also "mom! don't comment on my wall!". And classmates bullying each other. And happy marketers analysing huge blobs of data.

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