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As a non-artist, I can never even hope to understand the complex design choices that the GNOME developers make. http://i.imgur.com/VXwiUdU.png
That appears to be the Unity desktop in Ubuntu. The full Gnome 3 experience is different and does not have the duplication from the global menu.
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I think you mean http://mate-desktop.org/
No, you're both adding too much bloat: http://dwm.suckless.org/
If you're willing to leave the false abstraction of stackable "windows" behind in the quest for maximum productivity, I suggest you give it a shot.
I'd love to see what percentage of linux desktop users actually use gnome anymore. It would be especially interesting to see a graph of how that has changed over time. My intuition is that they went from almost total dominance a few years ago to total irrelevance now (< 2%).
Good thing is you have alternatives from MATE to KDE, Xfce, E17, etc. etc. It's not like you're forced to use Nautilus either.
Personally i never understood the hatred towards change. In the beginning of Gnome 3 it was really extreme and now it's slowly getting better (with the complaints) because people become accustomed to it. It's GOOD that Gnome tries to make it simple, because we all wish for a Linux computer our parents could use. That's just not going to happen with the options-and-complex-information everywhere approach.
After all Gnome Shell isn't that bad and i'm sure a guy posting on HN who uses Linux on his Desktop has the skills to check his available diskspace without the status bar ;)
As Nautilus has been horribly slow for a long time, I switched to PCManFM, the file manager of LXDE. It integrates well with GNOME, and is pretty much full-featured. There's also a status bar ;-) The only weird thing is that in the "detailed list view", the sort order cannot be changed by clicking the column headers.
Also, as someone who does not use a full DE, I appreciate the fact that the defualt is not to start managed the desktop when you start PCManFM, as opposed to Nautilus which defaults to managing the desktop when you open it. I still don't get why managing the desktop is always the same program as the file explorer, but Windows does the same thing, so their might be some deeper reason than 'becuase nautilus is doing it'
You can always go KDE. In file management however, Dolphin is still an awkward kid compared to Konqueror, but hey, it's still there.
> Dolphin is still an awkward kid compared to Konqueror Are you kidding? Dolphin is probably the best graphical file manager in existence. It's streets ahead of anything on Linux, OS X or Windows. The only thing I miss on OS X is actually Dolphin.
I feel sorry for the Gnome guys - they get crucified if they do or don't advance the platform, yet look across and see other fruit flavoured platforms pull worse on their user base yet their fan base not only approves of it, but they somehow justify in the most Stockholm syndrome walled garden kind of way.
No vague assertions, please be more specific
"yet their fan base not only approves of it, but they somehow justify"
Coincidentally their "fan base" is composed of several people with design and user experience knowledge (in various degrees) so I believe their acceptance of things has a basis. (And it doesn't mean they accept everything)
Edit: as an example quoted by the other commenter, inversion of scrolling direction was a big change. But it is configurable, so you can always go back
The natural scrolling makes sense if you're using a trackpad, but for a scroll wheel it's awful
You can always go KDE. In file management however, Dolphin is still an awkward kid compared to Konqueror, but hey, it's still there.
> Dolphin is still an awkward kid compared to Konqueror Are you kidding? Dolphin is probably the best graphical file manager in existence. It's streets ahead of anything on Linux, OS X or Windows. The only thing I miss on OS X is actually Dolphin.
I doubt that. If you are running Ubuntu, try running "sudo apt-get install dolphin && dolphin"
So 2 years after the appearance of Gnome Shell someone still doesn't get that Gnome tries to simplify the whole interface and that Gnome has been trying to create a simple interface for the majority of people for many many years. Big news. Good thing is you have alternatives from MATE to KDE, Xfce, E17, etc. etc. It's not like you're forced to use Nautilus either. Personally i never understood the hatred towards chan…
So 2 years after the appearance of Gnome Shell someone still doesn't get that Gnome tries to simplify the whole interface and that Gnome has been trying to create a simple interface for the majority of people for many many years. Big news. Good thing is you have alternatives from MATE to KDE, Xfce, E17, etc. etc. It's not like you're forced to use Nautilus either. Personally i never understood the hatred towards chan…
I would love to see data on this, but my impression is not that it is growing its market share.