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Re: The GNOME developers removed it.

#22
I'd love to see what percentage of linux desktop users actually use gnome anymore. It would be especially interesting to see a graph of how that has changed over time.

My intuition is that they went from almost total dominance a few years ago to total irrelevance now (< 2%).

Re: The GNOME developers removed it.

#23
post #18

As Nautilus has been horribly slow for a long time, I switched to PCManFM, the file manager of LXDE. It integrates well with GNOME, and is pretty much full-featured. There's also a status bar ;-) The only weird thing is that in the "detailed list view", the sort order cannot be changed by clicking the column headers.

That's odd, I'm on a netbook running Lubuntu right now and I can do that. Have you tried filing a bug?

Re: The GNOME developers removed it.

#24
post #6

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I think you mean http://mate-desktop.org/

No, you're both adding too much bloat: http://dwm.suckless.org/

In all seriousness, I find it much nicer to use a lightweight WM and install/configure exactly what I need, than have something generic that I don't understand as well (i.e., "desktop environment").

Re: The GNOME developers removed it.

#25
post #2

http://xfce.org/ It's never too late...

I used to run GNOME on my workstations and XCFE on my first netbook (Asus Eee 701) before switching everything over to openbox... the latter has gotten me so used to right-click-for-everything that using GNOME or Windows requires a minute of concerted effort to remember how most of the rest of the world does things.

[edit: However, I still use Nautilus, and thanks to the article this thread discusses I'll likely now have to switch that out... oh well. I was switching from barebones Ubuntu to Debian anyway thanks to Canonical's growing nuttery.]

Re: The GNOME developers removed it.

#26
post #8

Real men use fluxbox ;-)

Honest question; I used fluxbox for some time. As a minimalist I loved it in the beginning. But, as soon as I started using it for developing/coding I did not find it intuitive at all. I, especially, found it hard to manage multiple windows. Now I'm on Gnome and the combination of plank and the panel makes it amazing to work on.

I'm relatively new to Linux and installed fluxbox over Mint 14. Also, I don't exclusively use the terminal.

How are you able to manage it on fluxbox?

Re: The GNOME developers removed it.

#27

Genuine question: Why is the GNOME project still dominant, when they consistently make arbitrary changes and refuse to listen to their users?

because contrary to the opinion of all the linux bloggers, most of the gnome team's design decisions are actually pretty good. they've been progressing towards a stripped down simple UI that fades into the background and lets you focus on your application and your work for a while now.

if gnome were a new project to make linux pretty, everybody would be talking about how awesome it is. it's only a problem because they're taking the old gnome that people were used to and changing it. and people are afraid of change.

Re: The GNOME developers removed it.

#28
I feel sorry for the Gnome guys - they get crucified if they do or don't advance the platform, yet look across and see other fruit flavoured platforms pull worse on their user base yet their fan base not only approves of it, but they somehow justify in the most Stockholm syndrome walled garden kind of way.

Re: The GNOME developers removed it.

#29

You can always go KDE. In file management however, Dolphin is still an awkward kid compared to Konqueror, but hey, it's still there.

> Dolphin is still an awkward kid compared to Konqueror

Are you kidding? Dolphin is probably the best graphical file manager in existence. It's streets ahead of anything on Linux, OS X or Windows.

The only thing I miss on OS X is actually Dolphin.

Re: The GNOME developers removed it.

#30

I feel sorry for the Gnome guys - they get crucified if they do or don't advance the platform, yet look across and see other fruit flavoured platforms pull worse on their user base yet their fan base not only approves of it, but they somehow justify in the most Stockholm syndrome walled garden kind of way.

I think users complained quite a lot for tiny changes in OSX such as inversion-of-scrolling-gesture, new expose behaviour, mission control, and plenty more.

But I don't remember apple removing many features from the finder or changing the menu bar since OSX was launched, so I think your simile is misaimed.

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