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Re: I Don't Want Your Fucking App

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Post by Dewie »

reinhardt wrote: post #70
Nursie wrote: post #46

So much this. When I come to your site it is very unlikely I'm looking for any sort of long term relationship. What I want is access to the information I'm looking for as quickly and painlessly as possible. Secondly, your app probably wants various permissions on my system. No. Third, why the hell would I want hundreds of apps grunking up my menus? Fourth, you already have my whole screen, what more do you want? So y…

I agree with all points. What I'm wondering is, what percentage of mobile users are like me, you and almost everyone that commented here? Does the proverbial "average user" share the sentiment? My guess is no, or else the marketroids that push the app agenda would have gotten the message by now.

There are a lot of web designs that the average user finds annoying, which is in the same category as this - 'I don't want a splash page, I don't want your artsy and convention-breaking layout, I don't want your app - I just want to find what I need without anything getting in my way.' It can be hard to find web pages that don't violate some useability principles that seem pretty obvious.

Maybe it's just cargo-cult programming.

Re: I Don't Want Your Fucking App

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Post by d23 »

tomjen3 wrote: post #180
reinhardt wrote: post #70

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I agree with all points. What I'm wondering is, what percentage of mobile users are like me, you and almost everyone that commented here? Does the proverbial "average user" share the sentiment? My guess is no, or else the marketroids that push the app agenda would have gotten the message by now.

I don't think marketroids care about reality based things like data -- the good ones does, but not the kind that is employed by the daily mail. The daily mail is actually better because they _explicitly_ wrote "you wont see this again for 7 days", which is insane, since if I didn't want it the first time I don't want it the second time. As for quora, well they are run by people who wants to make the world a worse pla…

> As for quora, well they are run by people who wants to make the world a worse place to be, so no surprise there.

I actually quite like Quora. Any particular reason for the hate?

Re: I Don't Want Your Fucking App

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Post by baddox »

MrMan wrote: post #198
baddox wrote: post #148

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I'm American, and I have no problem with cursing or politically incorrect speech in person with a group of friends, coworkers, or even loose acquaintances. I just don't like it on public-facing (or "customer-facing," although that doesn't apply in this case) media. For me, it's not a question of morality, offensiveness, or corrupting children, but rather of perceived professionalism and legitimacy.

the mark of a true HN user - everything is about money and status.

I don't think anyone said anything about money, and "status" is such a vague term that it can be used to describe any concerns.

Re: I Don't Want Your Fucking App

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Post by ofacup »

d23 wrote: post #222
tomjen3 wrote: post #180

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I don't think marketroids care about reality based things like data -- the good ones does, but not the kind that is employed by the daily mail. The daily mail is actually better because they _explicitly_ wrote "you wont see this again for 7 days", which is insane, since if I didn't want it the first time I don't want it the second time. As for quora, well they are run by people who wants to make the world a worse pla…

> As for quora, well they are run by people who wants to make the world a worse place to be, so no surprise there. I actually quite like Quora. Any particular reason for the hate?

for starters you can't read more than one reply without installing their app. want more reasons for hate?

Re: I Don't Want Your Fucking App

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Post by rmrfrmrf »

jcrites wrote: post #217
rmrfrmrf wrote: post #203

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Because word wrap and fluid layout are design decisions made by web developers and designers, NOT the web browser. Fluid layouts work just fine on iOS and wrap as expected. IMO the decision by Apple to scale a site's layout proportionally without breaking the intended layout is a valid one.

I think it's a bad decision. In order to read the text, I need to zoom in. But I can only zoom in on a part of the page, so I need to scroll sideways back and forth to read the beginning and end of lines in the same paragraph. It's a bad decision. I should be able to size and flow the page to fit my display, wrapping it appropriately. Yes, the designer should a layout that does this for mobile devices anyway. But the…

Setting a static div width should not be undefined behavior for developers. It creates a situation where, if a mobile browser breaks the layout of a site in order to wrap text, the developer then has to go back and create a workaround for a single browser.

Re: I Don't Want Your Fucking App

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Post by linker3000 »

notyourpal wrote: post #138

I feel this way about random advertisements I see on sites (mainly intrusive ones- well don't we all) . especially on the Forbes website. forbes can have interesting information (mixed with too much opinion maybe) but the writing is good...shitty site though because of ads and millions of click throughs to read an article .

As someone actively looking for a new job, I am getting severely frustrated by the number of corporate Web sites that now have an 'apply online' function that requires me to deconstruct my carefully-crafted CV into pieces that fit the un-formattable boxes on the web form. It took me over an hour to complete an application today. I suppose it gauges the candidates' genuine interest in the job though.

On a side note - darn fine IT Manager looking for a new home on the UK South coast - I'll email a CV - just don't point me towards a web form!

Re: I Don't Want Your Fucking App

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Post by clhodapp »

brudgers wrote: post #209
dreamfactory wrote: post #188

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I was thinking more device orientation/velocity/camera etc Geo is available on web, and SSO via fb etc allow virality through contact lists in much the same way as an app (I think). I guess the biggest reason why a business should get you to install an app is push messaging (though I guess that could be approximated with email).

An app with access to your camera can shoot fucking video or pictures and run them through analysis. For example, an internet radio station can adjust its playlist based on who it sees. Well, that and its ads.

What internet radio station is "access[ing] your camera[,] shoot[ing] fucking video or pictures and run[ing] them through analysis" to "adjust its playlist" and ads "based on who it sees"? For that matter, what app is doing anything remotely close to this?

Re: I Don't Want Your Fucking App

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Post by uxwtf »

reinhardt wrote: post #70
Nursie wrote: post #46

So much this. When I come to your site it is very unlikely I'm looking for any sort of long term relationship. What I want is access to the information I'm looking for as quickly and painlessly as possible. Secondly, your app probably wants various permissions on my system. No. Third, why the hell would I want hundreds of apps grunking up my menus? Fourth, you already have my whole screen, what more do you want? So y…

I agree with all points. What I'm wondering is, what percentage of mobile users are like me, you and almost everyone that commented here? Does the proverbial "average user" share the sentiment? My guess is no, or else the marketroids that push the app agenda would have gotten the message by now.

The conversion rate should still be fine for the apps who are asking for the installation.
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