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Re: I Don't Want Your Fucking App

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Post by [deleted] »

jrajav wrote: post #72
michaelfeathers wrote: post #62

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The Americans, by contrast, seem a lot more upset about the swearing. I wonder why that is? There's a prudish streak in the US that I really believe comes from the fact that the country was originally settled by people too religious and too concerned with overtly moral social interaction to be tolerated in 17th century England. That may seem like too easy an explanation but I really do think there is some truth to it…

As an agnostic American, this is pretty much exactly it. There are lots of subtle social stigmas - like cursing - due to the widespread Christian influence.

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Re: I Don't Want Your Fucking App

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Post by steveax »

tomjen3 wrote: post #183
millerm wrote: post #43

I am with you, and I don't mind the harshness of the title. It explains exactly how I feel. This "download our app" trend has abolutely been ruining my browsing experience on my phone and tablets. I've used other browsers that allow user agent hacks, but there are just too many other factors that we developers can use to determine the hardware the user is using. Perhaps we need a way to create a new blacklist of anno…

Onswipe. Yeah that is another company that has decided to make world a worse place. What I can't understand in how they got so many content owners to ruin their websites by using their crap.

Indeed, I hate, hate onswipe "enhanced" sites. Bad enough you have to wait for the redirect and then all the assets to load (they are always slow) but then there are even more annoyances. There is no way to retain a preference for the regular site (at least not without allowing 3rd party cookies) and then they spawn a new window when you choose to view the desktop site! I've stopped visiting sites that use onswipe. The pain is just not worth the content.

Re: I Don't Want Your Fucking App

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Post by pmikesell »

Nursie wrote: post #46

So much this. When I come to your site it is very unlikely I'm looking for any sort of long term relationship. What I want is access to the information I'm looking for as quickly and painlessly as possible. Secondly, your app probably wants various permissions on my system. No. Third, why the hell would I want hundreds of apps grunking up my menus? Fourth, you already have my whole screen, what more do you want? So y…

Fifth - if I do give in an install the damn thing you're just going to want me to update it all the time anyway

Re: I Don't Want Your Fucking App

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Post by rdale »

gearoidoc wrote: post #181
rdale wrote: post #127

Earlier quoted context omitted.

You've completely missed the point. At the moment we have a free web and we can use a variety of browsers to access it. If instead we can only access the web via apps and those app are controlled by the likes of Apple or Google, then we don't have a free web anymore. Maybe today the apps are free (as in beer), but maybe tomorrow they won't be. We would no longer be in charge and the web would have been appropriated b…

Huh? The original post wasn't about bringing a walled garden approach to the web; it was about modals encouraging visitors to download an app. I don't think you need to worry about only accessing the web via apps - it just won't happen. FWIW, I abhor the popups in question but I can understand a company's decision to add them to their site. However, the way to stop this pattern is by showing decision makers statistic…

"I don't think you need to worry about only accessing the web via apps - it just won't happen."

That's all right then.

Re: I Don't Want Your Fucking App

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Post by ams6110 »

mtts wrote: post #159
michaelfeathers wrote: post #62

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The Americans, by contrast, seem a lot more upset about the swearing. I wonder why that is? There's a prudish streak in the US that I really believe comes from the fact that the country was originally settled by people too religious and too concerned with overtly moral social interaction to be tolerated in 17th century England. That may seem like too easy an explanation but I really do think there is some truth to it…

Oh, it's definitely true. When Brits riot, they throw "stones". Americans think the word reminds them of testicles and so throw "rocks" instead. Which to Brits is ridiculous as to them "rocks" are rather larger bits of stone that are pretty hard to pick up, let alone throw. I'm told. Not being a native speaker of either British or American English I wouldn't know if this is true or not, but I thought the story was am…

Hm well "stones" and "balls" can mean "testicles" in context, but it's usually pretty clear when they should mean their literal definitions. If someone was "throwing stones" or "throwing balls" I doubt anyone would think they were throwing testicles.

Re: I Don't Want Your Fucking App

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Post by solnyshok »

Nursie wrote: post #46

So much this. When I come to your site it is very unlikely I'm looking for any sort of long term relationship. What I want is access to the information I'm looking for as quickly and painlessly as possible. Secondly, your app probably wants various permissions on my system. No. Third, why the hell would I want hundreds of apps grunking up my menus? Fourth, you already have my whole screen, what more do you want? So y…

and fifth, I do not want your app to litter into my notifications or eat RAM/battery on my (android) phone.

Re: I Don't Want Your Fucking App

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Post by downandout »

Hmm....perhaps there should be a "I don't want your fucking app" setting on Android and iPhone. This would make sure that an X-App-Fuck-Off header is sent with every browser request, informing the site not to prompt you about its fucking apps. That way everyone would have a choice.

Re: I Don't Want Your Fucking App

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Post by MrMan »

baddox wrote: post #148
michaelfeathers wrote: post #62

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The Americans, by contrast, seem a lot more upset about the swearing. I wonder why that is? There's a prudish streak in the US that I really believe comes from the fact that the country was originally settled by people too religious and too concerned with overtly moral social interaction to be tolerated in 17th century England. That may seem like too easy an explanation but I really do think there is some truth to it…

I'm American, and I have no problem with cursing or politically incorrect speech in person with a group of friends, coworkers, or even loose acquaintances. I just don't like it on public-facing (or "customer-facing," although that doesn't apply in this case) media. For me, it's not a question of morality, offensiveness, or corrupting children, but rather of perceived professionalism and legitimacy.

the mark of a true HN user - everything is about money and status.

Re: I Don't Want Your Fucking App

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Post by solnyshok »

crimsonzagar wrote: post #67

Well seems like the discussion has moved away from the central thought of the post; let me try and add some of my life into the thread. Here is how I live today: Web is good for me. Porn is good for me. Anonymity is good for me. Given that I have an iPad, Galaxy Note 2 and a Chinese tablet with Android on it, the total installed 'app count' of my toys is zero. Zilch. I have said it a numerous times before, and I'd pr…

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