Actually eat healthily for £1 per day

We're not talking Roman slaves here. "Work 'til you drop or we'll kill you" isn't at issue.

A poor person in rural India really is poor. Under $2/day income (world median) is poor. My sympathies and help.

Blaming the social structures WE live in, no. Assistance, tools, opportunities, etc are prolific; if you're not using them, it's not because they're not available to you.

Yes I'm leaning on the "if someone doesn't do it they don't really want to" trope. That's largely the POINT in this thread, as pointed out by others too. I just see far too much "golly, going to Walmart and buying beef/beans/sauce/seasoning for $5 and cooking it for 10 minutes to feed 4 is just too hard", which a poor rural Indian or a Roman slave would look on at with sheer astonishment.

http://nutritiondata.self.com/facts/dairy-and-egg-products/0...

Compare that to olive oil.

Also, add milk. Yes, fresh milk is out of the question, but not powdered.

It is you who is spewing up rhetoric.

As for magic - seriously and as for being special - seriously!

I'm above average height, think alot and I can not get by on 3k calories a day, somebody smaller with a slower metabolism who thinks less can, you just come along and asume it is wrong and justify it on the basis that you know better and offer NO evidence.

Lets put this down to difference of oppinion and that you are not me and I am not you and as I have said everybody is different and it is those that impose such cookie cutter type attitudes that are the ones that concern me, thats you that is.

Your tone has been dismissive, insulting and frankly everything that a troll is, if it looks like one, talks like one and acts like one. Well you can see my point of veiw and choose to ignore it, which you did and then went on to support my concerns with perfect clarity in an example you can't make up.

Comming along and telling somebody that they are lieing because they don't fit the normal aspect is frankly not what these forums are about, sorry I don't have research paper written about me, but and this is the shocking news, not everybody does because we are all different. Applying an average against the top and bottom end of the scales is just silly and goes against what an average is meant to be.

As for people who need higher than everage intakes for many reasons there are many examples if you can be bothered to look, and I have no desire to let you near my medical records or indeed go into detail about my medical history at all for the sake of pandering to somebody who offers no proof. And no I have not had a gastoric bypass, so you can count that one out.

I wished I could eat what norms eat and maintain myself, I can't and I'm sorry I go against your hitleresk views off people.

I did -- your thoughts are incongruent. If you're trying to improve health and food costs "in general", "generally applicable" ideas ought to be presented. If I said you can cut your power bill and improve your health by installing bicycle-generators in your house, it glosses over the facts

  1) you're going to need a battery array

  2) a collection of bicycles and the requisite generator equipment

  3) ability and time to run the generator

  4) can deal with the inconvenience of perhaps not having "instant-on" power

  5) live in any place where this is both practical and desirable, for some definitions of "practical" and "desirable"

> And yes, I've built computers from scratch

On HN this probably isn't so surprising, but in the general populace, I think this sort of thing is considered wizardry. It's not practical for most people.

> but you can buy a refurbished one complete for $190 at Best Buy

I agree enthusiastically. (though I'd personally hit up Craigslist for an old Thinkpad). I think this (and your above points) touch on something I'm passionate about too: I see what I think is a lot of entitlement and laziness in the world I live in. People want too much, and don't want to "work" for it -- not that they don't have jobs, but that they expect needs to be fulfilled by passing a credit card over the counter.

I think we may not be too different: My car is a 40 year old Volkswagen that I got for a fraction of the $$ that my friends pay for their autos. I happen to familiar with the air-cooled VW quirks and limitations and live within them. I also do my own engine work and maintenance. I feel good about keeping another car out of the landfill. The $$ cost, though, is a fraction of what I pay. Other costs include

1) Occasional valve adjustment, points/timing adjustment, etc

2) Driving in a constant state of awareness wrt the machine that I'm operating; I listen to the engine, transmission, wheel hubs, and monitor my gauges more than any typical driver I know.

3) My car is slow. My trips take longer. I have to drop to second gear on steep hills.

4) I sometime have real mechanical issues. I've repaired a fuel injector on a road trip. On another, I ran on 3 cylinders until I found a garage and then helped the mechanic work on it, scavenging parts from an old Beetle behind the garage.

I happen to be pretty happy with my automobile situation, but would I recommend Joe Commuter do it to save $$ on the up-front purchase of an automobile? Never. I think it'd be insulting. It's overwhelming for the problem, and therefore doesn't really advance anything. It doesn't help Joe Commuter. Like when people discuss the cost of food and you suggest "Here's $40 worth of seeds. With this you've got vegetables for a year -- get to work."

That said, again, I think we're appreciating the same things.