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Germany is downgrading

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Re: Germany is downgrading

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T-Mobile in the States is, if possible, even worse. I visited Puerto Rico in February and decided on a T-Mobile stick because the one I use in Budapest works perfectly. In PR, though, there were URLs that simply didn't go through - and there is literally no support. None; you simply can't get support at all. No phone, no email - just a "community support" forum where you can post things if you feel like blowing off steam. And it still cost $10/GB.

Not only that, you can only purchase a new block of 5 GB after your current one has already been used up. Before then they simply don't take your money - unless you set up autopay. And you can't purchase time online, because the URL forwards to nowhere - see above lack of any support facility. You can't even report this breakage.

So you have to do it by phone. But there are two systems; first you have to load money onto your account, then you can use the money on your account to pay for a new 5GB block - but these are two different systems with two different numbers and they each require you to punch in your phone number and a PIN code. Different PIN codes, if I recall. And again, no human support at all.

But then let me tell you about our T-Mobile cell phones here in Budapest. My phone started sending me "premium" SMS messages at 1500 ft a pop (about $7.50 per premium message) until the entire balance was used up. As service messages so they don't show in the Inbox. T-Mobile was able to block that, but my wife's phone started mysteriously "accessing the Internet" (it's not a smart phone), again at something like 500 ft per access, invisibly, until her balance was used up. The only recourse is to go to a T-Mobile store and stand in line for half an hour, because they do kind of have phone support here in Hungary, but the only thing they can tell you is to go to the store and wait in line.

The store has no permission to escalate to technicians. The people in the store "disabled" Internet on my wife's phone three separate times; the theft continued each time. Sometimes they'd refund some money and apologize and swear up and down that everything was disabled.

Finally, it seems to have stopped on its own. Maybe it was a system misconfiguration, maybe not. It's impossible to know, because clearly T-Mobile itself has no idea.

Their Internet stick (in Hungary) works great, though. So I continue to use them - it's just that if there's ever a problem they are entirely unable to fix it. The entire company is so Balkanized and so incredibly poorly managed that they can only barely function if nothing goes wrong.

Re: Germany is downgrading

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post #31

T-Mobile in the States is, if possible, even worse. I visited Puerto Rico in February and decided on a T-Mobile stick because the one I use in Budapest works perfectly. In PR, though, there were URLs that simply didn't go through - and there is literally no support. None; you simply can't get support at all. No phone, no email - just a "community support" forum where you can post things if you feel like blowing off s…

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Re: Germany is downgrading

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Germans love complaining. It's the national addiction.

That may be the reason we enjoy such a high standard of living (in most areas) - Progress depends on dissatisfaction with the status quo and complaining is the most visible form of dissatisfaction.

Re: Germany is downgrading

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post #6

I had exactly the same experience when I still lived in Germany. I lived in a rural area and the fastest internet connection was DSL 1000. It wasn't possible to watch youtube videos fluently, software upgrades took ages and video calls were a pain.

Ha! Try moving to a rural area in the States, then. Soon you won't even have mail service if Congress has its way. But cable or Internet? Forget it.

Re: Germany is downgrading

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post #2

It's depressing that many governments simply don't understand that providing high speed cheap internet should be the number 1 priority for encouraging growth in technology sectors.

Finland does :) It is the first country in the world to make broadband access a fundamental right of every citizen! And the speed is ensured to be at least 100 Mbps by 2015.

Last summer we listened to music in a rowing boat in a lake in the middle of nowhere in Finland. Streaming from YouTube. It felt somehow wrong. Like "into the wild", with a 20€ unlimited data plan, and the ability to send live video from the forest. Later, when driving back to civilization, we spent 2 hours playing our favorite tracks in a moving car. Again streaming.

Re: Germany is downgrading

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post #20

I somewhat disagree with this article, at least from my experience. From my experience internet has always been cheaper, faster and more reliable than any time I have had a connecting on the US. I have mostly had experience with Kabel BW and Telekom. For example in the US at the moment it costs me ~$80 for a reasonable cable connection from comcast 20Mb/s. I can expect my connection to go down for a few seconds/minut…

It would be interesting to hear how much cheaper we are talking here about. E.g. here in Lithuania (Eastern Europe) I pay about 15$ for 100Mb/s (for 30$ I could get 300Mb/s).

not "that" cheap, my father currently pays 40 euros (~$50) for TV service and a 50/10 Mb/s connection in southern Germany. In comparison I pay $80 for 20/2 Mb/s Internet only. For me to add basic cable TV it would go up to $120

Re: Germany is downgrading

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post #31

T-Mobile in the States is, if possible, even worse. I visited Puerto Rico in February and decided on a T-Mobile stick because the one I use in Budapest works perfectly. In PR, though, there were URLs that simply didn't go through - and there is literally no support. None; you simply can't get support at all. No phone, no email - just a "community support" forum where you can post things if you feel like blowing off s…

However, T-Mobile's advertising in Puerto Rico when they were expanding into the market a couple of years back was fantastic. Very well-localized. Most people have no idea at all they're a German company - my wife and I laughed that the only giveaway on their billboards was their heavy use of sans-serif fonts.

Re: Germany is downgrading

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post #31

T-Mobile in the States is, if possible, even worse. I visited Puerto Rico in February and decided on a T-Mobile stick because the one I use in Budapest works perfectly. In PR, though, there were URLs that simply didn't go through - and there is literally no support. None; you simply can't get support at all. No phone, no email - just a "community support" forum where you can post things if you feel like blowing off s…

> T-Mobile in the States is, if possible, even worse. I visited Puerto Rico

Judging the 'United States' based on Puerto Rico?

Re: Germany is downgrading

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At the same time that I think it's important to complain, the post seems too much like a spoiled complaint. "Don't move your startup there"? Is the poster aware that several startups work with internet worse than that? Internet quality is one important factor, but it is not the only one. I'd even say there are more important factors. Complains about D-Telekom but offers no alternative? (and that's why government mono…

A serious start up should not be using consumer grade DSL lines.
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