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Re: Being Really, Really, Ridiculously Good Looking

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Post by beachstartup »

mikecane wrote: post #53
Kudzu_Bob wrote: post #4

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Pascal: “Those who are accustomed to judge by feeling do not understand the process of reasoning, for they would understand at first sight, and are not used to seek for principles. And others, on the contrary, who are accustomed to reason from principles, do not at all understand matters of feeling, seeking principles, and being unable to see at a glance.”

If you're using that to defend exploiting women, forget it.

if you're paying the women, but taking the mens' money, who exactly is being exploited here?

Re: Being Really, Really, Ridiculously Good Looking

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Post by Kudzu_Bob »

papaver wrote: post #17

like the porno for pyros song goes, "cursed to be born beautiful, poor and female, there's none that suffered more." there are definitely advantages to be born beautiful but there are also several disadvantages. its too bad the article didn't dwell on the negative effects as well.

Saying that it's tough being beautiful is one of those formulations along the lines of, "Oh, it's such a burden having all this wealth. How I envy the simple, carefree lives of the poor."

Re: Being Really, Really, Ridiculously Good Looking

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Post by beachstartup »

cosx wrote: post #68
jiggy2011 wrote: post #52

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Are you sure they attempted to sabotage you because they were threatened by your looks and not some other reason?

No guarantee's there, but I can say that it works both ways. Xenophobia and these sorts of biases exist and are normal parts of being a human being. I would say, it's better to accept that these biases exist, so that you can take them into account when reasoning - rather than trying to delude yourself into thinking you are in entire control of all that is going on in your mind (and body).

it's not because you're an asian, it's because you're good looking.

the same thing happens to good looking white guys and good looking women (around other women) too.

you've never heard the term 'prettyboy'? it's used all the time to put down good looking men.

Re: Being Really, Really, Ridiculously Good Looking

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Post by beachstartup »

rprospero wrote: post #33
rthomas6 wrote: post #8

Until this perception of attractive people being more trustworthy, smarter, etc. changes (it's probably not going to change), how do we incorporate this information into our lives and careers? My opinion: lose weight. Or rather, reduce your body fat percentage. It's not as hard as people make it out to be. Look at the hot or not composite index. Notice the correlation? The numbers are inversely correlated with their…

Another way of incorporating this is with the classic "Never trust a man in a suit" We know that we give extra weight to the arguments of good looking individuals. Guys in suits generally look better than guys in sweatpants. Therefore, if a guy in a suit tells you something, it's not really as good of an idea as you think it is. He's also not as competent or hard working as you think he is. To combat this, you should…

no, to combat this, you need to wear a nicer suit.

if you are in a room full of suits and you are wearing casual clothes, you better own the fucking company or nobody is going to listen to a damn thing you're saying. the suit makes others, and yourself more authoritative, even to yourself.

this is a highly social activity/phenomenon you're describing, you can't just power through and ignore it because you know how computers work.

Re: Being Really, Really, Ridiculously Good Looking

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Post by ebfe »

cgh wrote: post #57
ChrisNorstrom wrote: post #16

Evolution wise, this is because people like in others, what they wish they had for themselves. Likewise, people hate in others what they dislike about themselves. We celebrate the beautiful because we wish we too could be beautiful. We mock the ugly/short/gay/fat/skinny/weak because those are qualities that we ourselves do not wish to have. If all of society punishes those with these traits, people with these traits…

Look, so long as you have a full head of hair, the world and in particular women will consider you to be at least decent looking. My hair started to fall out when I was 22 and by 26 I was seriously balding. To make matters worse, I started to go grey and by 28 or so I was fully "distinguished" (aka old) looking. So yeah, actually looking young goes a long way. Do not take your good fortune for granted. Like you said,…

A full head of hair until 22? Man, you had it made. As an 18 year old with a severely receded hairline, I'd kill to be you.

Re: Being Really, Really, Ridiculously Good Looking

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Post by LekkoscPiwa »

glogla wrote: post #66
bherms wrote: post #14

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I agree wholeheartedly. Unfortunately we're in a country (assuming US) where everyone wants handouts and an even playing field, regardless of their lifestyle choices. People demand their offices install ramps for mobility scooters when they're morbidly obese and it's discriminatory not to oblige, but try arguing your work should open later because you drink too much every night. Overeating and copious alcohol consump…

Of course. "Stop being fat, it's easy, look at me how fit I am" is pretty much the same "Stop being poor, it's easy, look at how rich I am."

"Stop being fat, it's easy, look at me how fit I am"

Which is very, very, very true. I was 240 pounds, went down to 155 - and hell yah, I will repeat it back to you - "Stop being fat, it's easy, look at me how fit I am". Gym, sweat and cry as I did. The first thing you'll notice too is how much less self-pity you have. And that's manly too.

Re: Being Really, Really, Ridiculously Good Looking

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Post by seanmcdirmid »

glogla wrote: post #66
bherms wrote: post #14

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I agree wholeheartedly. Unfortunately we're in a country (assuming US) where everyone wants handouts and an even playing field, regardless of their lifestyle choices. People demand their offices install ramps for mobility scooters when they're morbidly obese and it's discriminatory not to oblige, but try arguing your work should open later because you drink too much every night. Overeating and copious alcohol consump…

Of course. "Stop being fat, it's easy, look at me how fit I am" is pretty much the same "Stop being poor, it's easy, look at how rich I am."

Not being fat also involves lifestyle choices that are easier to make when you are rich. E.g. want to go workout but you live in a sucky climate? No problem, just drive on over to the gym! Want to live in a better climate where you can bike to work every day? Sure, just move to the bay area. Want to work out before lunch? You have a high value job, your employer will be flexible.

Then sometimes its just a matter of context. I've totally gained weight since the gym in my apartment complex suddenly shutdown, and the pollution has been so bad this winter (700+ 2.5PM) that my options for doing much anything active have been severely limited.

Re: Being Really, Really, Ridiculously Good Looking

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Post by JabavuAdams »

I recently realized that this is embedded in our language. My 4-year was confused by the phrase "good-looking". She assumed that it meant people who look like they're good.

By four, she's already internalized that attractive people are good and unattractive (by local standards) are bad. Scary.

Re: Being Really, Really, Ridiculously Good Looking

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Post by acheron »

warfangle wrote: post #25
ChrisNorstrom wrote: post #16

Evolution wise, this is because people like in others, what they wish they had for themselves. Likewise, people hate in others what they dislike about themselves. We celebrate the beautiful because we wish we too could be beautiful. We mock the ugly/short/gay/fat/skinny/weak because those are qualities that we ourselves do not wish to have. If all of society punishes those with these traits, people with these traits…

/r/malefashionadvice might help you out some. I've been lurking there for a while , and for so many people it's not that they're ugly -- they're just used to wearing ill-fitting clothes that do not suit their body and face type.

Speaking of stereotyping, the idea of taking fashion advice from reddit cracks me up. I'm sure it's probably fine and has some good things, but... you know, reddit.

Re: Being Really, Really, Ridiculously Good Looking

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Post by illuminate »

bored wrote: post #58
ChrisNorstrom wrote: post #35

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1st rule of being ugly: Every ugly person has at least 1 really good picture that hides all of their flaws or is easily photoshoppable to hide flaws. Use any combination of lighting, shadows, cropping, facial hair to get this effect. 2nd rule: Find that picture and use it for everything. 3rd rule: People will be confused when they see you in real life and realize you look different from your picture. They will be dis…

Fortunately you're a guy and can elicit the same positive reaction by being confident, funny and charming.

Confident, funny, charming women don't elicit positive reactions from sane, well-adjusted males?
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