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Re: Being Really, Really, Ridiculously Good Looking

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Post by logicallee » Thu, Apr 25, 2013, 10:42 PM UTC

ChrisNorstrom wrote: post #35

clicks wrote: post #18

Earlier quoted context omitted.

What... Okay, having just followed the link in your profile and looking at your picture, dude, trust me you're not ugly. I actually honestly think you're a handsome guy, judging purely by appearances. But anyway. You know, I've noticed that people who fixate on appearances tend to be irrationally harsh. You'd be surprised how big a part confidence and charisma plays in the overall attraction people feel for one anoth…

1st rule of being ugly: Every ugly person has at least 1 really good picture that hides all of their flaws or is easily photoshoppable to hide flaws. Use any combination of lighting, shadows, cropping, facial hair to get this effect. 2nd rule: Find that picture and use it for everything. 3rd rule: People will be confused when they see you in real life and realize you look different from your picture. They will be dis…

it's up to you but with that many sentences and enumerated rules of response you might consider making your rebuttal by linking to what you would consider a more typical picture of you.

it's very hard to have this discussion when what we see is what you think of as a deceptively handsome picture. why not compare with a more typical one. we don't think what we have seen is deceptive we think it's just you.

we have no idea what your point is.

Re: Being Really, Really, Ridiculously Good Looking

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Post by jiggy2011 » Thu, Apr 25, 2013, 10:43 PM UTC

cosx wrote: post #48

moistgorilla wrote: post #27

Earlier quoted context omitted.

What downsides?

You might get deported like that Saudi guy for being too handsome. You can also be targeted by other men (of a different race for example) that feel threatened by you - or women too, the bitter type, in all seriousness. To make it easier for your probable world view: being a very good looking tall black man for example, won't necessarily have everyone open up to you with smiles on their faces (especially if you don't…

Are you sure they attempted to sabotage you because they were threatened by your looks and not some other reason?

Re: Being Really, Really, Ridiculously Good Looking

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Post by mikecane » Thu, Apr 25, 2013, 10:43 PM UTC

Kudzu_Bob wrote: post #4

mikecane wrote: post #2

>>>“In one study, men who saw a new-car ad that included a seductive young woman model rated the car as faster, more appealing, more expensive-looking, and better designed than did men who viewed the same ad without the model. Yet when asked later, the men refused to believe that the presence of the young woman had influenced their judgments.” I've been wondering why in China launches of products are usually accompan…

Pascal: “Those who are accustomed to judge by feeling do not understand the process of reasoning, for they would understand at first sight, and are not used to seek for principles. And others, on the contrary, who are accustomed to reason from principles, do not at all understand matters of feeling, seeking principles, and being unable to see at a glance.”

If you're using that to defend exploiting women, forget it.

Re: Being Really, Really, Ridiculously Good Looking

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Post by jiggy2011 » Thu, Apr 25, 2013, 10:48 PM UTC

Odin9 wrote: post #50

incision wrote: post #20

I'm surprised there's no mention downsides to being an attractive man. I think they certainly exist, but perhaps the net is positive?

Straight porn. They don't want attractive men, it makes male viewers feel inadequate.

Not that I'm the best to judge, but male porn actors seem to be mostly in pretty good shape.

Re: Being Really, Really, Ridiculously Good Looking

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Post by chipsy » Thu, Apr 25, 2013, 10:50 PM UTC

As the article establishes, beauty in the traditional sense mostly means "average."

To some extent I think you can take more control over your appearance by searching for an identity that goes beyond traditional elements - taking an artistic approach to one's fashion, makeup, outlook, etc. Music subculture has done this numerous times since the 20th century, and more recently queer culture has been deconstructive of many of the traditional attitudes towards beauty. Those ideas are deliberately positioned against the mainstream, yet have an influence on it over time - you can get away with a far more outlandish appearance in a modern urban area now than 30 years ago.

As well, we're going to keep adding corrective measures over time.

So I see society heading towards a "meeting in the middle" in some respects - creating all permutations of attractiveness.

Re: Being Really, Really, Ridiculously Good Looking

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Post by bored » Thu, Apr 25, 2013, 10:53 PM UTC

clicks wrote: post #18

ChrisNorstrom wrote: post #16

Evolution wise, this is because people like in others, what they wish they had for themselves. Likewise, people hate in others what they dislike about themselves. We celebrate the beautiful because we wish we too could be beautiful. We mock the ugly/short/gay/fat/skinny/weak because those are qualities that we ourselves do not wish to have. If all of society punishes those with these traits, people with these traits…

What... Okay, having just followed the link in your profile and looking at your picture, dude, trust me you're not ugly. I actually honestly think you're a handsome guy, judging purely by appearances. But anyway. You know, I've noticed that people who fixate on appearances tend to be irrationally harsh. You'd be surprised how big a part confidence and charisma plays in the overall attraction people feel for one anoth…

You missed the part where he writes about suffering from Body Dysmorphic Disorder

Re: Being Really, Really, Ridiculously Good Looking

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Post by cgh » Thu, Apr 25, 2013, 10:56 PM UTC

ChrisNorstrom wrote: post #16

Evolution wise, this is because people like in others, what they wish they had for themselves. Likewise, people hate in others what they dislike about themselves. We celebrate the beautiful because we wish we too could be beautiful. We mock the ugly/short/gay/fat/skinny/weak because those are qualities that we ourselves do not wish to have. If all of society punishes those with these traits, people with these traits…

Look, so long as you have a full head of hair, the world and in particular women will consider you to be at least decent looking. My hair started to fall out when I was 22 and by 26 I was seriously balding. To make matters worse, I started to go grey and by 28 or so I was fully "distinguished" (aka old) looking.

So yeah, actually looking young goes a long way. Do not take your good fortune for granted. Like you said, you can change the other stuff you don't like.

Re: Being Really, Really, Ridiculously Good Looking

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Post by bored » Thu, Apr 25, 2013, 10:57 PM UTC

ChrisNorstrom wrote: post #35

clicks wrote: post #18

Earlier quoted context omitted.

What... Okay, having just followed the link in your profile and looking at your picture, dude, trust me you're not ugly. I actually honestly think you're a handsome guy, judging purely by appearances. But anyway. You know, I've noticed that people who fixate on appearances tend to be irrationally harsh. You'd be surprised how big a part confidence and charisma plays in the overall attraction people feel for one anoth…

1st rule of being ugly: Every ugly person has at least 1 really good picture that hides all of their flaws or is easily photoshoppable to hide flaws. Use any combination of lighting, shadows, cropping, facial hair to get this effect. 2nd rule: Find that picture and use it for everything. 3rd rule: People will be confused when they see you in real life and realize you look different from your picture. They will be dis…

Fortunately you're a guy and can elicit the same positive reaction by being confident, funny and charming.

Re: Being Really, Really, Ridiculously Good Looking

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Post by RivieraKid » Thu, Apr 25, 2013, 10:58 PM UTC

"America has no law preventing companies from using attractiveness as a hiring criteria, regardless of whether the job is exotic dancer, salesman, or software engineer. It’s pretty much okay from a legal standpoint to discriminate based on looks in America."

This law wouldn't make much sense. We could as well make a law preventing companies from using intelligence as hiring criteria. Imagine a boring job in a factory, where having above average intelligence wouldn't make you more productive. Is it discriminating to hire someone only because the boss likes him because he's intelligent? And what about discrimination based on smell or sense of humour?

Re: Being Really, Really, Ridiculously Good Looking

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Post by jacoblyles » Thu, Apr 25, 2013, 11:00 PM UTC

chipsy wrote: post #55

As the article establishes, beauty in the traditional sense mostly means "average." To some extent I think you can take more control over your appearance by searching for an identity that goes beyond traditional elements - taking an artistic approach to one's fashion, makeup, outlook, etc. Music subculture has done this numerous times since the 20th century, and more recently queer culture has been deconstructive of…

> beauty in the traditional sense mostly means "average."

I'd imagine that this is true for females, but that males would benefit from being above average in some ways (i.e. height).