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Re: Samsung admits to posting fake user reviews on the web

#51

Great, now I have to prove I'm not a "Samsung shill" before being positive about Samsung products.

Not really. Most readers look at a person's entire posting history before making that kind of claim. And most people who post phony reviews, post too many of them to escape attention.

Re: Samsung admits to posting fake user reviews on the web

#52
post #32

>perhaps the bigger issue here is this: if Samsung has been using these tactics against HTC, are they also engaged in similar marketing techniques with other rivals? The even bigger issue is, who else is doing this more intelligently than Samsung?

Eventually all you have to do is mimic human behavior closely enough and it's untraceable. Sometimes that's expensive, but it's always doable.

Re: Samsung admits to posting fake user reviews on the web

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Companies who are leaders in their industry do not usually need to do this. I've heard of it happening at smaller organizations or sole proprietorships (small business), but it is strange to see from a company as large as Samsung. What's important is how high up the chain this was sanctioned by. If it's a lowly manager somewhere, he/she will just get fired and this will all blow over. If it's right at the top, it's m…

Samsung's IP theft issues would lead me to believe that their credo is "whatever it takes to win" and this kind of behavior isn't out of line with their track record.

>Samsung's IP theft issues

You mean the time when Apple tried to patent "0-length-swipe" and a shape of a box?

Re: Samsung admits to posting fake user reviews on the web

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It's sad that samsung would do this... Is it commonplace for companies to do this?

You decide.. https://news.ycombinator.com/submitted?id=infoman The domain was registered one day after the HN account was registered, first post wasn't made for 14 days (aka. when the username no longer appears in green). In his defence, if he is a shill, he's not very good at it. Edit: hnsearch picked up a hellbanned post (it should appear on the front page, but it doesn't) at https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=55…

> You decide.. https://news.ycombinator.com/submitted?id=infoman

do you think Google created this? Obviously not, Google get nothing from it.

Re: Samsung admits to posting fake user reviews on the web

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The title is a bit misleading -- the story is not that Samsung used devious marketing methods, the story is that they were caught. Any number of companies hire shills to post phony endorsements, the trick is not to get caught. In fairness to companies like Samsung, if everyone is doing it, to stand on principle is to risk being trounced by those who don't.

Samsung's customer base is more than large enough to let positive reviews emerge from real customers. There is no excuse for this. None. Full stop.

Doing this is wrong for a company of any size, no matter if it's big or small.

Re: Samsung admits to posting fake user reviews on the web

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post #4
post #2

It's sad that samsung would do this... Is it commonplace for companies to do this?

You decide.. https://news.ycombinator.com/submitted?id=infoman The domain was registered one day after the HN account was registered, first post wasn't made for 14 days (aka. when the username no longer appears in green). In his defence, if he is a shill, he's not very good at it. Edit: hnsearch picked up a hellbanned post (it should appear on the front page, but it doesn't) at https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=55…

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Re: Samsung admits to posting fake user reviews on the web

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post #4
post #2

It's sad that samsung would do this... Is it commonplace for companies to do this?

You decide.. https://news.ycombinator.com/submitted?id=infoman The domain was registered one day after the HN account was registered, first post wasn't made for 14 days (aka. when the username no longer appears in green). In his defence, if he is a shill, he's not very good at it. Edit: hnsearch picked up a hellbanned post (it should appear on the front page, but it doesn't) at https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=55…

He's just posting his own stuff...a little too often I agree, but nothing out of ordinary here beyond that. It's not like he's the first on HN who's ever done that.

Re: Samsung admits to posting fake user reviews on the web

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Companies who are leaders in their industry do not usually need to do this. I've heard of it happening at smaller organizations or sole proprietorships (small business), but it is strange to see from a company as large as Samsung. What's important is how high up the chain this was sanctioned by. If it's a lowly manager somewhere, he/she will just get fired and this will all blow over. If it's right at the top, it's m…

Samsung's IP theft issues would lead me to believe that their credo is "whatever it takes to win" and this kind of behavior isn't out of line with their track record.

Why am I not surprised. Samsung has a history of imo unethical and questionable business practices.

Samsung Inflates Galaxy Tab Sales, Gets Busted

http://modmyi.com/content/360-samsung-inflates-galaxy-tab-sa...

Quite smooth: Samsung actually sold 1/10 of the 2 million Galaxy Tabs it claimed in 2010

http://forums.appleinsider.com/t/151854/quite-smooth-samsung...

Looks Like Samsung Pretty Much Lied About US Sales To The Public

http://www.macgasm.net/2012/08/10/looks-like-samsung-pretty-...

Samsung Hires 'Actors' To Pretend To Be Happy Galaxy Tab Testers?

http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20110325/12360313633/samsun...

Samsung caught presenting actors as Galaxy Tab "consumers," fudging thinnest tablet claims

http://appleinsider.com/articles/11/03/25/samsung_caught_pre...

Here’s how Samsung flew bloggers halfway around the world, then threatened to leave them there.

http://thenextweb.com/insider/2012/09/02/heres-samsung-flew-...

Samsung Caught Fudging Testimonials, and Lying about Galaxy Tab’s Thickness

http://techie-buzz.com/gadgets-news/samsung-galaxy-tab-fake-...

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