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Gitmo Is Killing Me

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Who are these "medical personnel" performing these acts? I am a physician and I can tell you that force feeding these people is against our code of ethics. The physician overseeing their treatment should be 'outed' so that we can report this behavior to his/her licensing board.

I totally agree with you. However, I can easily see how those physicians can justify their actions to themselves. "Do no harm" can be extrapolated in many ways by cruel people suffering from delusion.

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What did you expect him to say? I am guilty of contributing to terrorism and the purposeful killing of innocent woman and children civilians? I like how everyone here takes this guys word for everything. It is all a government conspiracy that has put him in there. After all, the US government likes to round up random people around the world and put them in max security detainment as kind of a boredom fighting game ri…

Your comment is what happens when you let authority be your truth instead of letting truth be your authority.

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I know for a fact that much of these claims are completely wrong and, being told by a detainee, are completely biased.

Detainee's that refuse meals are required to receive their nutrients in liquid form. They have the option to drink this themselves. When they refuse, they are put in the feeding chair which restrains their arms, legs, and waist. It does not restrain a detainees head whatsoever.

When a detainee refuses to drink the liquid themselves, and refuses to go to the restraint chair themselves, they're carried to the chair by a Forced Cell Extraction team. ERF is a term that the detainee's created themselves. There are 6 guards, not 8, and it is for the safety of the detainee, as there is one guard to handle each body part (2 legs, 2 arms, head), and then one at the door to ensure that the detainee does not escape. Every FCE is video taped to ensure that safe and humane practices are being followed.

They do this for this exact reason. Publicity. We wont send them back to Yemen because we don't want their heads to be severed by their Government. No one wants this place to be open. Don't be foolish, America. Don't be gullible, America. We are still the good guys.

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In EU, a number of ministers have been disgraced enough to be thrown out of politics when their cooperation with USA "extraordinary rendition" came known. Where is the outrage in USA about Gitmo - which high-ranking officials have resigned in shame (or been thrown out for being shameless) about keeping these torture centers?

Here is an obvious analysis: The idea with terrorism against democracies is to scare the living daylight out of voters in a country. The politicians in those democracies want to win the next election do everything to stop the terror. Afaik, most every democracy that had a serious terrorist problem over years threw out the law book -- UK, Germany, Israel, Spain, USA, etc. It is a reaction built into democracy, if you…

A better way? Easy: what Norway did after Breivik.

If a country is aping the Israelis, it's failed as a democracy.

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This is not the kind of content I come to Hacker News for.

I didn't downvote you because I didn't agree with you (even though I don't), but because your comment is underspecified, un-argumented, and thus without any value.

I read his comment as simple sarcasm.

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#236

What did you expect him to say? I am guilty of contributing to terrorism and the purposeful killing of innocent woman and children civilians? I like how everyone here takes this guys word for everything. It is all a government conspiracy that has put him in there. After all, the US government likes to round up random people around the world and put them in max security detainment as kind of a boredom fighting game ri…

> "I am guilty of contributing to terrorism and the purposeful killing of innocent woman and children civilians?"

How do you know this? Has he had a trial?

Citation needed.

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Thats stupid. You're stupid.

Possibly, but am I wrong? As far as I understand, this is quite a real problem: no country is willing to receive most of these prisoners, except countries to which the U.S. cannot reasonably send them. Public opinion in the U.S. is hostile towards accepting them as refugees. A few have been placed to Palau, because sending them home to China would be bad and Palau is in no position to refuse such a request. Is that f…

Tough shit. If they didn't want to take responsibility for these people then they shouldn't have interned them in the first place.

Also, this definitely isn't hacker news but I'm glad it was brought to my attention anyway.

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#238

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Thats stupid. You're stupid.

Possibly, but am I wrong? As far as I understand, this is quite a real problem: no country is willing to receive most of these prisoners, except countries to which the U.S. cannot reasonably send them. Public opinion in the U.S. is hostile towards accepting them as refugees. A few have been placed to Palau, because sending them home to China would be bad and Palau is in no position to refuse such a request. Is that f…

Yes, you are wrong.

Refugee status was invented for such people.

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Should he be? What are the official laws regarding a POW? Certainly not that of naturalized citizens... After skimming the UN Laws for POWs[1] and reading the parts that seemed to deal with internment and time length, it's not really clear to me why he should have to be tried. Once he's be associated with the enemy he can be held until the end of Hostilities at which point the "host" country can decide when and how t…

If he is a POW he should be released since the war was over 10 years ago.

It was? That's news to the Taliban.
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