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Re: You know, Google, the web already had this feature

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Post by DanBC »

bennyg wrote: post #321
DanBC wrote: post #273

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The post you replied to (with the "GooGoo Fanboy" term) was overly vociferous. But that's when it's most important to avoid words like 'fanboy' because otherwise discussion dies. People probably thought you had a good point, but you lose that when you use words like 'googoo fanboy'. And that'll do nothing to sway the person you're replying to. If anything it'll just entrench them even more.

How can you call that overly vociferous without thinking the same thing about "Apple's joke of an operating system"?

I was calling 'apple's joke of an OS' overly vociferous, not 'googoo fanboy'.

Re: You know, Google, the web already had this feature

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Post by drharris »

nr0mx wrote: post #310
rimantas wrote: post #285

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> Look at the things that some of you champion; the > iPhone, the iPad...anything running iOS, anything > made by apple computer, the company that is pushing > hardest against openness on the internet. What a bunch of nonsense. Even the first iPhone had a browser which supported more of HTML5/CSS3 than desktop browsers at the time. It was not Google, it was Apple who brought canvas, css transforms, css animations to…

Your recent comment on Apple pulling AppGratis from the App Store - "Go and innovate on Android, what's the problem. Or make your own platform and innovate there. Or use HTML5. What makes me sad is constant whining about stuff like this." - doesn't exactly reconcile with your disputing the OPs point regarding Apple and openness or taking objection to OPs stance on guys whining about Google. That is, unless your first…

Openness and innovation are not mutually exclusive. It is possible to both champion standards and have a walled garden.

Re: You know, Google, the web already had this feature

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Post by natem345 »

blhack wrote: post #114

You guys in this thread whining about google: It isn't google that has changed, it is the whole world which has changed. Look at the things that some of you champion; the iPhone, the iPad...anything running iOS, anything made by apple computer, the company that is pushing the hardest against openness on the internet. Oh, you want some basic browser functionality like uploading files? Spend time learning objective C,…

Is there an article detailing where Mercedes/others are getting their self-driving technology from? I'm just curious; the timing does seem oddly quick, and they sure sound optimistic.

Re: You know, Google, the web already had this feature

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Post by criley »

lettergram wrote: post #332
silverbax88 wrote: post #324

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Something that has happened to me over the past month that I never thought would happen - I'm actively looking to use Bing and DuckDuckGo over Google. Bing, something I laughed at just a few months ago. Google's results are starting to waver and the Google+ requirement is a cancer eating their products from the inside.

>Google's results are starting to waver I'll be honest I don't know for sure, but I highly doubt Google would intentionally hurt themselves by ruining their search results. Also, >Google+ requirement is a cancer eating their products from the inside. I do agree it's B.S. but using 4 different computers on a regular basis and being a student I find it more useful to use their products than not. Especially, the syncing…

Google+ is a blight. I have multiple Google Accounts (I don't need my real name attached to my main gmail account!) and it's utter horror trying to use Google products.

You either give up on having an anonymous email because they WILL FORCE YOUR real name to be attached to your email, or you give up on Google integration features because you simply CANNOT use Google features without a real name anymore.

Trying to switch between my "public Google account" for functionality and my "private Google account" for privacy is almost impossible when you consider how broadly Google integrates the features. It's simply unteneable, completely. Google wants my privacy gone, and is denying me access to their services until I agree to give it up entirely.

Very, very frustrating for users who have more than one account.

Re: You know, Google, the web already had this feature

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Post by azakai »

jmillikin wrote: post #117
azakai wrote: post #93

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> sadly other browsers such as Firefox have followed their lead and removed RSS notifications by default. ? I am on Firefox, no addons, and I have a menu item Bookmarks->Subscribe to this page which detects RSS/Atom.

Firefox used to have an RSS icon in the address bar when a page referenced an RSS feed. This was an easy way to notify the user that a particular page supported RSS. The icon was removed in Firefox 4, causing much annoyance among people who use RSS (c.f. http://www.webmonkey.com/2011/01/firefox-4-ditches-the-rss-b... )

Oh ok, that is definitely a change then, but it's a minor UI change of moving a button into a menu.

Re: You know, Google, the web already had this feature

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Post by nvr219 »

rimantas wrote: post #285
blhack wrote: post #114

You guys in this thread whining about google: It isn't google that has changed, it is the whole world which has changed. Look at the things that some of you champion; the iPhone, the iPad...anything running iOS, anything made by apple computer, the company that is pushing the hardest against openness on the internet. Oh, you want some basic browser functionality like uploading files? Spend time learning objective C,…

> Look at the things that some of you champion; the > iPhone, the iPad...anything running iOS, anything > made by apple computer, the company that is pushing > hardest against openness on the internet. What a bunch of nonsense. Even the first iPhone had a browser which supported more of HTML5/CSS3 than desktop browsers at the time. It was not Google, it was Apple who brought canvas, css transforms, css animations to…

> Or spend some time learning that Safar on iOS 6 supports file input.

I've only been able to upload images.

Re: You know, Google, the web already had this feature

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Post by crazedpsyc »

ykaranfil wrote: post #331
silverbax88 wrote: post #324

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Something that has happened to me over the past month that I never thought would happen - I'm actively looking to use Bing and DuckDuckGo over Google. Bing, something I laughed at just a few months ago. Google's results are starting to waver and the Google+ requirement is a cancer eating their products from the inside.

I don't know if this is normal? I followed the tutorial on fixtracking.com and installed DuckDuckGo plug-in for Firefox, and later i realized by analyzing http traffic that everything i type in address bar is sent to DuckDuckGo, even it is not selected as a default search engine. I wouldn't trust DuckDuckGo

There is nothing malicious going on there. It does that so you can get instant answers where there would normally be auto-completion. This is covered very nicely in a paragraph in the addon's description, and can very obviously be disabled in the addon's preferences.

Re: You know, Google, the web already had this feature

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Post by UntitledNo4 »

gizzlon wrote: post #280
UntitledNo4 wrote: post #222

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And even more important - CUPS.

Yes, but they didn't create CUPS. Keeping it open source might have been a conditions of the purchase (citation needed :)

Perhaps you're right, I don't know, but for me it's irrelevant. Someone wanted examples of OSS from Apple, and in my opinion it's the most important one when I was a Linux User. I was not trying to defend Apple. I think they deserve a lot of criticism they receive, but that they also deserve some credit. This is also true for most (if not all) other firms that are often discussed here. Just wanted to highlight that rarely are things black or white, but that we rather deal with a lot of different shades of grey.

Re: You know, Google, the web already had this feature

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Post by drharris »

cleis wrote: post #323
PavlovsCat wrote: post #296

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Then actually look up Godwin's law. It says something about the probability of a Nazi comparison occuring, but nothing about that loosing the argument or ending the conversation. And that's just as well, because why would it be otherwise? Because Godwin said so? What, is he Adolf Hitler or something?

The corollary to Godwin's law is that the first person to bring up the Nazis automatically loses the argument.

We need a new law that states whoever brings up Godwin's Law without Nazis being mentioned also loses the argument.

Re: You know, Google, the web already had this feature

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Post by solistice »

PavlovsCat wrote: post #339
cleis wrote: post #323

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The corollary to Godwin's law is that the first person to bring up the Nazis automatically loses the argument.

A law and a corollary are still two distinct things. What people like to claim Godwin's law says, it doesn't actually. And that one is just one of many corollaries (not "the corollary") many random people made up because they could, and which I reject because they have no basis in valid reasoning. After all, the only argument here is "someone said that". Why do people who believe nonsense on someone elses say-so obje…

"The Nazis and the Soviets both used intimidation tactics to further their political power". Ohhh...it seems I have lost the argument. Horrible pity, really.
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