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Re: You know, Google, the web already had this feature

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Post by workbench »

blhack wrote: post #114

You guys in this thread whining about google: It isn't google that has changed, it is the whole world which has changed. Look at the things that some of you champion; the iPhone, the iPad...anything running iOS, anything made by apple computer, the company that is pushing the hardest against openness on the internet. Oh, you want some basic browser functionality like uploading files? Spend time learning objective C,…

GDF out in full force, how is this joke of a comment that doesn't even understand the most basic of things like where webkit came from by the top of the list.

Re: You know, Google, the web already had this feature

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Post by heja2009 »

I find it really depressing that this discussion immediately degrades into Apple vs Google, people feel a need to state that they are or have been a "fan" of Google before giving their statement and similar. If we want to really discuss about what a desirable future for the web is, how to further that cause, and who might be allies and foes we first have to overcome these attitudes.

Re: You know, Google, the web already had this feature

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Post by felipebueno »

myko wrote: post #87
lawdawg wrote: post #62

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Is this the tech version of Poe's Law? Or is it the new version of tin-foil-hatism? You guys have a very, very strange definition of "evil". Google may not be perfect, and sure they deserve some harsh criticism and mocking from time to time for their choice of unofficial motto, but come on people, get a grip.

I think felipebueno was being sarcastic, just did a poor job of getting that across. It doesn't look like a serious comment to me.

Yeah, it was a (poor) joke =P. But I really don't like Google anymore and I'm going to avoid their stuff.

Re: You know, Google, the web already had this feature

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Post by felipebueno »

mehrzad wrote: post #92
felipebueno wrote: post #21

I used to be a Google fan as well. Not a BIG fan but a fan. In late 2010 I decided it was time to move on from Google. It took a while but I already went back to Firefox (nightly), started moving my emails to fasmail.fm (with my own domain so I'm not tied to anyone), I'm trying to use only DuckDuckGo (it's difficult... I have to admit that Google is unbeatable yet), stopped using google+ and Google Reader (since 2011…

Try !sp in DDG.

Thanks, man! I'm going to try that. =)

Re: You know, Google, the web already had this feature

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Post by workbench »

kaoD wrote: post #26
kunai wrote: post #2

Google has overstayed the web's welcome. What started out as a quirky, innovative company that bucked all of the suit-and-tie trends (see Microsoft, HP, even Apple in some regards) of Silicon Valley, has now turned into a monstrous calamity with no regard for its users. Up until 2009, it was breezy and beautiful, but right now, at this moment, it's a different story altogether. Don't be evil? Pfeh. The only thing lef…

What I specially hate about Google+ is the fact that Google can't stop spamming me to join it. Now even Google Play comments need to be part of Google+. You know what, Google? Fuck you. No. Fuck you twice. I won't join that fucking horrid place. I don't even have Facebook, why would I join a crappy social network?

"Change your difficult to remember name on YouTube to your easy to remember real name!"

Yeah because I really want all those racists and gun nuts knowing what my real name is.

Re: You know, Google, the web already had this feature

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Post by workbench »

yanw wrote: post #45

Chrome never implemented RSS auto discovery. Everyone else has a "walled garden" why must Google be different? and why should they - arguably the least “walled” of said gardens - suffer the "openness" brunt? The fact that they are not investing in RSS tools doesn't mean they're against them, it's just not in their interest anymore, and so I come to the conclusion that this is yet another Google Reader lament, and I t…

> Everyone else has a "walled garden" why must Google be different?

Because they spout "Don't be evil" and "open" when they're backed into a corner.

Re: You know, Google, the web already had this feature

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Post by mtreis86 »

rimantas wrote: post #288
krichman wrote: post #278

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Hello. I don't have any strong pro-Google feelings. I used to really like Apple. iOS is only good for people that want something which works and which they don't need to spend any effort on maintaining. It is a complete joke for people that want a powerful mobile computing device. I use an iPhone now but my next phone will be an Android. To be honest I'll probably continue to buy iPod Touches as long as they can be j…

Yes iOS is for people who want to do something on their devices, android is for people who want to do something to their devices. Like a car owner who knows how to drive, but is not a mechanic and car owner who is a mechanic and spends days in the garage tweaking the engine instead of driving. Guess which one drives more. Maybe that explains disparity between the market share and web usage stats for iOS and Android.

I think you mean "people with mechanical aptitude" because the mechanics I know work on their own cars alot less than the car enthusiasts I know. And they certainly enjoy driving the cars they put so much time into a heck of alot more than the people who bring it into a mechanic to fix everything.

Re: You know, Google, the web already had this feature

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Post by felipebueno »

lawdawg wrote: post #62
felipebueno wrote: post #21

I used to be a Google fan as well. Not a BIG fan but a fan. In late 2010 I decided it was time to move on from Google. It took a while but I already went back to Firefox (nightly), started moving my emails to fasmail.fm (with my own domain so I'm not tied to anyone), I'm trying to use only DuckDuckGo (it's difficult... I have to admit that Google is unbeatable yet), stopped using google+ and Google Reader (since 2011…

Is this the tech version of Poe's Law? Or is it the new version of tin-foil-hatism? You guys have a very, very strange definition of "evil". Google may not be perfect, and sure they deserve some harsh criticism and mocking from time to time for their choice of unofficial motto, but come on people, get a grip.

I know, I know, the "evil" thing was a bit exaggerated. I know they are a big corp (like Microsoft, Apple, Oracle, etc) and need to make (big) money (no matter what it takes) to maintain it's infrastructure. I just don't like that and that's just my opinion.

Re: You know, Google, the web already had this feature

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Post by mtreis86 »

kunai wrote: post #2

Google has overstayed the web's welcome. What started out as a quirky, innovative company that bucked all of the suit-and-tie trends (see Microsoft, HP, even Apple in some regards) of Silicon Valley, has now turned into a monstrous calamity with no regard for its users. Up until 2009, it was breezy and beautiful, but right now, at this moment, it's a different story altogether. Don't be evil? Pfeh. The only thing lef…

Google's search has changed. At one point the searches you and I perform would have returned the same results. Now, even without being logged it, we get differing results. This can be both good and bad depending on your view but it certainly has changed.

Re: You know, Google, the web already had this feature

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Post by nr0mx »

rimantas wrote: post #285
blhack wrote: post #114

You guys in this thread whining about google: It isn't google that has changed, it is the whole world which has changed. Look at the things that some of you champion; the iPhone, the iPad...anything running iOS, anything made by apple computer, the company that is pushing the hardest against openness on the internet. Oh, you want some basic browser functionality like uploading files? Spend time learning objective C,…

> Look at the things that some of you champion; the > iPhone, the iPad...anything running iOS, anything > made by apple computer, the company that is pushing > hardest against openness on the internet. What a bunch of nonsense. Even the first iPhone had a browser which supported more of HTML5/CSS3 than desktop browsers at the time. It was not Google, it was Apple who brought canvas, css transforms, css animations to…

Your recent comment on Apple pulling AppGratis from the App Store - "Go and innovate on Android, what's the problem. Or make your own platform and innovate there. Or use HTML5. What makes me sad is constant whining about stuff like this." - doesn't exactly reconcile with your disputing the OPs point regarding Apple and openness or taking objection to OPs stance on guys whining about Google. That is, unless your first retort had nothing at all to do with the OPs point about openness.
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