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Re: You know, Google, the web already had this feature

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Post by blhack »

kunai wrote: post #2

Google has overstayed the web's welcome. What started out as a quirky, innovative company that bucked all of the suit-and-tie trends (see Microsoft, HP, even Apple in some regards) of Silicon Valley, has now turned into a monstrous calamity with no regard for its users. Up until 2009, it was breezy and beautiful, but right now, at this moment, it's a different story altogether. Don't be evil? Pfeh. The only thing lef…

>Google has overstayed the web's welcome.

Then stop using their products. Switch to bing, switch to Internet Explorer, get an iPhone and shut up about it.

No, google has not "overstayed the web's welcome", google has overstayed the welcome of a few entitled silicon valley golddiggers who will continue feeling wronged for the next 10 minutes until they realize what wonderful things google has created in the world for them to use.

Re: You know, Google, the web already had this feature

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Post by kunai »

blhack wrote: post #114

You guys in this thread whining about google: It isn't google that has changed, it is the whole world which has changed. Look at the things that some of you champion; the iPhone, the iPad...anything running iOS, anything made by apple computer, the company that is pushing the hardest against openness on the internet. Oh, you want some basic browser functionality like uploading files? Spend time learning objective C,…

There is nothing Google Glass does that my smartphone already can't.

And how is Apple waging war against openness? WebKit is open-source. They're pushing HTML5 against Flash (open vs proprietary). Darwin (OS X without Quartz and DPS) is open source. A few of the apps included with OS X are open-source.

Google cars? Driverless car research has been going on for years, both before and alongside Google.

Look, I'm not badmouthing their accomplishments. All I'm saying is that they're just not the company they used to be.

Re: You know, Google, the web already had this feature

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Post by kunai »

blhack wrote: post #121
kunai wrote: post #2

Google has overstayed the web's welcome. What started out as a quirky, innovative company that bucked all of the suit-and-tie trends (see Microsoft, HP, even Apple in some regards) of Silicon Valley, has now turned into a monstrous calamity with no regard for its users. Up until 2009, it was breezy and beautiful, but right now, at this moment, it's a different story altogether. Don't be evil? Pfeh. The only thing lef…

>Google has overstayed the web's welcome. Then stop using their products. Switch to bing, switch to Internet Explorer, get an iPhone and shut up about it. No, google has not "overstayed the web's welcome", google has overstayed the welcome of a few entitled silicon valley golddiggers who will continue feeling wronged for the next 10 minutes until they realize what wonderful things google has created in the world for…

> Then stop using their products. Switch to bing, switch to Internet Explorer, get an iPhone and shut up about it.

I use Yahoo (flame me all you want), I use Firefox, and I do own an iPhone.

But I am not going to shut up about it, because Google is forcing me away even though they're the best at what they do.

I hate them because I care.

Re: You know, Google, the web already had this feature

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Post by wilfra »

ANTSANTS wrote: post #59
DanBC wrote: post #42

Earlier quoted context omitted.

What do they need to do to fix YouTube? (I'm really asking. I think some of it is broken, and maybe people can pass information onto YouTube people.) 1) Default to 240: I want to be able to always watch videos in the worst resolution possible. I want the lightest bandwidth possible. I'd sometimes be happy with just the audio. It seems that I can't default to 240, no matter what I click. 2) Small elements in UI: There…

1. There are numerous userscripts that let you select a default video quality. I use YousableTubeFix, which also adds video download links and a number of fine-grained interface tweaks (heck, you can even remove the comment section completely, mooting point 4!) 3. Agreed. 4. The anarchy of the comment sections are part of the fun of Youtube to me. I rarely read even a page of comments, but the top voted ones manage t…

ya that real names thing is starting to piss me off. i get prompted for that way too often and it's way too hard to make that prompt go away. it seems designed to make you end up misclicking at some point trying to close it. and once you do every random possibly inappropriate video you ever liked or commented on will be tied to your real name? seriously?

Re: You know, Google, the web already had this feature

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Post by DanBC »

mercutio2 wrote: post #120
omegaham wrote: post #85

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It's a little bit more complicated than that. Every smart person I know browses Youtube. Youtube isn't like a TV network; most videos are only a few minutes long, so it's not inherently a timesuck the way that watching an hour long drama is. The difference is that because Youtube has no moderation in its comments, smart people look at the comments and immediately decide that it's not worth their time. So, the only pe…

Really? Why in the world would they do that? Effectively zero of the smart people I know browse YouTube. Most of my programmer friends listen to podcasts, but I honestly have no idea what smart people do with YouTube.

Some of the smart people I've heard of are on YouTube.

(http://www.wired.com/wiredenterprise/2013/02/provos/)

(http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vyUkYJeZtW4)

Re: You know, Google, the web already had this feature

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Post by pseut »

felipebueno wrote: post #21

I used to be a Google fan as well. Not a BIG fan but a fan. In late 2010 I decided it was time to move on from Google. It took a while but I already went back to Firefox (nightly), started moving my emails to fasmail.fm (with my own domain so I'm not tied to anyone), I'm trying to use only DuckDuckGo (it's difficult... I have to admit that Google is unbeatable yet), stopped using google+ and Google Reader (since 2011…

FYI you can get xmpp through fastmail too. That sounds almost exactly like my experience too.

Re: You know, Google, the web already had this feature

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Post by [deleted] »

blhack wrote: post #114

You guys in this thread whining about google: It isn't google that has changed, it is the whole world which has changed. Look at the things that some of you champion; the iPhone, the iPad...anything running iOS, anything made by apple computer, the company that is pushing the hardest against openness on the internet. Oh, you want some basic browser functionality like uploading files? Spend time learning objective C,…

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Re: You know, Google, the web already had this feature

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Post by pbhjpbhj »

redorb wrote: post #47
jacquesm wrote: post #41

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> I wouldn't bet against a lot of money (google) shutting down something they have seemed to bet a lot on. You mean like google wave? Or checkout? Or google buzz? Or any one of a large number of other products / projects that are no longer.

I would hope to never disagree with you - a very smart fellow on here. I however believe Google has put multiplies more money and 'skin in the game' when it comes to Google+... examples of what I think are the way they are pushing it so aggressively by integrating it everywhere. Wave was a pretty large launch I'll admit - but it still felt like an experiment - It felt like to me Google has said publicly in many ways…

Did you try http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Apache_Wave?

>Apache Wave is a software framework for real-time collaborative editing online. Google originally developed it as Google Wave.[1] It was announced at the Google I/O conference on May 27, 2009. [...]

>Development was handed over to the Apache Software Foundation which started to develop a server-based product called Wave in a Box.

Re: You know, Google, the web already had this feature

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Post by NewAccnt »

kunai wrote: post #122
blhack wrote: post #114

You guys in this thread whining about google: It isn't google that has changed, it is the whole world which has changed. Look at the things that some of you champion; the iPhone, the iPad...anything running iOS, anything made by apple computer, the company that is pushing the hardest against openness on the internet. Oh, you want some basic browser functionality like uploading files? Spend time learning objective C,…

There is nothing Google Glass does that my smartphone already can't. And how is Apple waging war against openness? WebKit is open-source. They're pushing HTML5 against Flash (open vs proprietary). Darwin (OS X without Quartz and DPS) is open source. A few of the apps included with OS X are open-source. Google cars? Driverless car research has been going on for years, both before and alongside Google. Look, I'm not ba…

HTML5 is not standard, certainly not open. Everyone abandoned WebKit for some unknown reason having to do with Apple. Please list these OSS Apps, I would love to know since Google and Wikpedia say nothing like that.

Re: You know, Google, the web already had this feature

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Post by ben1040 »

jacquesm wrote: post #41
redorb wrote: post #31

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I wouldn't bet against a lot of money (google) shutting down something they have seemed to bet a lot on. I believe Google shutting down Google Reader already means that 'RSS has gone somewhere' or will on July 1.. [edit] I also think Google backing off the shutdown would show a lot of users that it does listen and is willing to continue running a sub-par unit instead of shutting it down.

> I wouldn't bet against a lot of money (google) shutting down something they have seemed to bet a lot on. You mean like google wave? Or checkout? Or google buzz? Or any one of a large number of other products / projects that are no longer.

Checkout is still around; they just renamed it Wallet to coincide with their mobile app.
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