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Re: Taxi industry lawsuit against Uber transferred from state to US court

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Nope, the medallion systems exist to block new competition. Sure there are some regulations that seem to favor consumers-- such as price controls-- but these are a short-term benefit, and at the cost of reduced innovation. Far better to allow competition, and customer service will improve through market action rather than government rule-making.

"customer service will improve through market action" Ever been somewhere where taxis appear to be completely unregulated? It can be a scary nightmare. Why not enforce regulations on vehicle safety, accurate and fair charging and driver safety and remove the artificial restrictions on the number of people competing in the market? A lot of places outside of the US go with that approach and it can work pretty well.

I don't have a huge problem with your suggestion although I wonder if several competing Uber-esque services would solve these sorts of problems much more efficiently. The idea of "fair" prices is a difficult one because the definition of the idea varies so widely. I happen to like Uber's variable pricing strategy, but many people don't regard it as fair.

I work in Chicago and have a condo in the Near West area (basically Ashland and Madison). Cabbies who are already in the area love seeing me hail them for a downtown trip because they earn a few dollars driving where they would have gone anyway without a paying customer. If the industry was un-regulated, I might consider competing with Uber by offering people with less money than time a way to get an inexpensive cab ride from one of these "backhaul" areas. Imagine an Uber-esque service where a senior citizen who wanted to go to the grocery store sometime in the next hour but only wanted to pay $3 for her trip could place a bid for a pick-up. Cabbies who dropped off a premium customer nearby could at least pay for their fuel to reposition themselves for the next premium customer. Everyone wins. It's this sort of innovation which is stifled by laws deemed to be in the best interest of consumers.

Re: Taxi industry lawsuit against Uber transferred from state to US court

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This kind of sentiment comes up a lot, and I am sorry, I find it kind of revolting. There is this notion that cabbies are discriminating against the downtrodden, but in reality, they are the downtrodden. They are low-income, immigrant people who, unlike you, actually live in those outer boroughs. People who need money so badly that they will drive a cab for a living. You, on the other hand, are a wealthy dude. A dude…

Cabbies used to routinely discriminate against whomever they felt like, mostly black and brown people who needed to get uptown. That is why the laws prohibiting refusal to take you were you want to go were instated in the first place.

Were they discriminating against the individual or the likelihood that they would not be able to find a paying passenger in the immediate vicinity of the endpoint? Let's say they believed they would have to drive back to Manhattan for their next customer -- their effective earnings would drop by more than half (expensive backhaul) compared to a scenario where they could pick-up a paying passenger just a few blocks away.

Re: Taxi industry lawsuit against Uber transferred from state to US court

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In New York, cabbies are not allowed to refuse you ride a particular neighborhood either. I never announce where I want to go before I get in (I have some friends in BKLN). One time I did get a driver who bitched about having to take me somewhere. So I made an overt stretch to look at his details posted inside the car, and then pretended to be taking a note of it. He VERY quickly complied. I didn't have to say a word…

The NYC TLC does actually follow through on complaints about drivers not following the rules (CC broken, won't take you out of Manhattan, etc.) and they have an online reporting form http://www.nyc.gov/apps/311/allServices.htm?requestType=topS...

I was told by a taxi driver in Chicago that bureaucrats love complaints from taxi patrons because they can extract bribes from the drivers to resolve them.

Re: Taxi industry lawsuit against Uber transferred from state to US court

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

"customer service will improve through market action" Ever been somewhere where taxis appear to be completely unregulated? It can be a scary nightmare. Why not enforce regulations on vehicle safety, accurate and fair charging and driver safety and remove the artificial restrictions on the number of people competing in the market? A lot of places outside of the US go with that approach and it can work pretty well.

I don't have a huge problem with your suggestion although I wonder if several competing Uber-esque services would solve these sorts of problems much more efficiently. The idea of "fair" prices is a difficult one because the definition of the idea varies so widely. I happen to like Uber's variable pricing strategy, but many people don't regard it as fair. I work in Chicago and have a condo in the Near West area (basic…

Well, my idea around "fair" pricing are simply that if you have a meter that it is accurate and calculates according to displayed rates. I don't think the actual values charged should be regulated.
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