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Association between muscular strength and mortality in men (2008) [pdf]

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Re: Association between muscular strength and mortality in men (2008) [pdf]

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Why not? Do you need to say something confusing stated in esoteric medical terms?

Have you ever read an explanation of a compiler or concurrency using only the 1000 most common English words? It can be done (and I wish I could find the link), but there's a reason we don't talk like that, and neither should scientists.

Not a compiler, but more or less the same idea: Albert Einstein's Theory of Relativity/In Words of Four Letters or Less: http://www.muppetlabs.com/~breadbox/txt/al.html

Re: Association between muscular strength and mortality in men (2008) [pdf]

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Where is the knee pain, what type of squat are you doing and to what depth?

The knee pain is just below or possibly right under the kneecap. I try to go to parallel, even though the deeper I go the more likely one of my knees is to crap out. I'm doing regular squats AFAIK, not box squats or anything out of the ordinary. I've worked on my posture, and gotten people to critique it at the gym.

Foam roll your quads (can be very painful at first), standing quad stretch after each squat session and at least once a day, low bar squat (less stressful on the knees than high bar or front squat), video tape yourself to be sure you are going to parallel (otherwise your hamstrings aren't balancing the force from your quads and your knees are stressed), be sure that your knees don't track forward at the bottom of the squat (stressful on the knees since you are removing tension on the hamstrings, see Rippetoe's terribly useful block of wood), knee wraps or knee sleeves can be helpful.

Squatting correctly is more nuanced that it would first appear. Starting Strength 3rd edition explains the mechanics of the squat in great detail and justifies why you should squat in a certain way.

Not everyone can squat but most people are just doing it wrong. It is such a useful exercise that you should be very sure that you actually can't before you give it up. You can get good critique of your form by posting a video at the starting strength forums where you might also find useful information from a search for patellar tendonitis/tendinitis.

Re: Association between muscular strength and mortality in men (2008) [pdf]

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This is also true for endurance running, wine, coffee, beer, olive oil, eating lots of meat, not eating lots of meat etc.

There was a recent study which found that running only increased life expectancy if you were running 10-20miles (or km, memory hazy) per week. More than that and life expectancy decreased again. So endurance running, which I would guess you would categorise as marathon+ will decrease your life expectancy. Edit: /s/will/could Depending on how much running you already do.

Running 4 hours per week for 20 years will add 6 months to your expected lifespan. However, those 6 months will have been entirely spent running. So, plan accordingly.

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The first example I can understand, but I am not following you with the rest.

They are all things that have been shown to extend lifespan in various studies in the past few years. Some of these studies were observational like this, some where done by giving mice ridiculous doses etc but they all got picked up by the media. Some of these results are probably valid but if you want to scientifically extend your life you need to do so with statistical rigor.

Stop smoking, buckle your seatbelt, lose a few pounds and take tons of Vitamin D. Everything else is conjecture.

Re: Association between muscular strength and mortality in men (2008) [pdf]

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There was a recent study which found that running only increased life expectancy if you were running 10-20miles (or km, memory hazy) per week. More than that and life expectancy decreased again. So endurance running, which I would guess you would categorise as marathon+ will decrease your life expectancy. Edit: /s/will/could Depending on how much running you already do.

Running 4 hours per week for 20 years will add 6 months to your expected lifespan. However, those 6 months will have been entirely spent running. So, plan accordingly.

Exercise demands time so in terms of increased life expectancy versus time spent exercising it's probably a wash. Speaking personally though, I feel awesome when I exercise regularly, and when I don't, I don't.

Exercise for higher quality of life and a better looking body, the longevity benefits are overrated.

Re: Association between muscular strength and mortality in men (2008) [pdf]

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There was a recent study which found that running only increased life expectancy if you were running 10-20miles (or km, memory hazy) per week. More than that and life expectancy decreased again. So endurance running, which I would guess you would categorise as marathon+ will decrease your life expectancy. Edit: /s/will/could Depending on how much running you already do.

Running 4 hours per week for 20 years will add 6 months to your expected lifespan. However, those 6 months will have been entirely spent running. So, plan accordingly.

As if it were some mind-numbing mundane task. On the contrary, whatever time you spend running will be some of the most alive parts of your life.

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Get what is called a "squat cage" (you can build one yourself if you don't like the options to purchase.) along with an Olympic bar (it is a bar weighted to 45 lbs. along with Olympic weights. You can do squats safely without a spotter by using a squat cage. Also, when you place a bench inside of the cage, you can use catch bars to safely bench press without a spotter (the safety bars will catch the bar at chest leve…

> "You can do squats safely without a spotter..." Just to add that 'safely' in this context means that if you fail at a rep, the cage will catch the bar. Obviously it can't do anything to point out bad form as a spotter, or even a mirror, could. I use the squat cage at the gym I go to and I wish they had more mirrors. A pair of angled ones so I can see a side-on view would be really helpful.

Use your smart phone to record yourself.

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Now just hold on a second there. As long as we're throwing out anecdotes, let me say that I've been lifting for a few years now and squats completely devastate my knees. I've tried over and over again and no matter what, my knees get a stabbing, debilitating pain when I squat, even at lighter weights. Physical therapy doesn't help. X-rays show no problems. Obsessing about correct posture doesn't help. Squats are just…

I used to have patella tendinopathy in one of my knees from heavy squats. I was able to eliminate all pain in about a week or two using these "Voodoo Floss Band" things.[1] They don't seem like they would work that effectively, but calling them magical is as justified as it was for the iPad. I had tried other strategies such as decline boards and negatives for several months which are commonly prescribed by physical…

If it goes away when pressure is applied, it might be trigger points. Find a physio who does dry needle therapy and see if that helps.

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What about the risk of osteoarthritis? See this discussion: http://www.reddit.com/r/Fitness/comments/s2kzg/my_doctor_tol...

I have an osteoarthritic left knee. In my case the underlying cause was a misfiring vastus medialis, possibly due to an acquired trigger point.

It would have happened simply by walking around as a fat guy.

I get synvisc injections every 6 months and I've returned to training. Trigger point therapy seems to do the rest.

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I used to have patella tendinopathy in one of my knees from heavy squats. I was able to eliminate all pain in about a week or two using these "Voodoo Floss Band" things.[1] They don't seem like they would work that effectively, but calling them magical is as justified as it was for the iPad. I had tried other strategies such as decline boards and negatives for several months which are commonly prescribed by physical…

If it goes away when pressure is applied, it might be trigger points. Find a physio who does dry needle therapy and see if that helps.

I hurt my back rowing in 2009 in the L5-S1 area. Many physios diagnosed it as different things and many of them tried different treatments. None of them worked and it hurt for three years. I tried lots of different core exercises, some physios tried manual and manipulative therapy (which helped for a bit) but after a few months of sessions of dry needling my back hasn't bothered me with that injury in over a year.

I would much recommend dry needling, it's not the same thing as acupuncture.

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