Does Anyone Here Speak Art and Tech? • Hacker News Board

Re: Does Anyone Here Speak Art and Tech?

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Post by Acoustiguide » Thu, Apr 04, 2013, 5:02 PM UTC

jdi626 wrote: post #17

jeresig wrote: post #2

I was interviewed for this article, it looks like my comments were used well and relatively in context. That being said I definitely don't fit into the tech + art audience that was being defined in this article. It seems to be implied that there is a large amount of naïveté regarding art amongst techies, which is very true for the most part, and they're just looking to burn their piles of tech money on something pret…

As a museum technologist and someone who works daily harnessing technology to help make collection objects and exhibitions more accessible and open, I found this article to be a bit skewed. Granted, the thrust was on personal collecting habits of those in the tech sector, but I find the arts/tech community to be vibrant, passionate and invested. Just my 2 cents from the inside.

Absolutely! We do this daily as well. Perhaps we all just need to make ourselves more well known to the tech community?

Re: Does Anyone Here Speak Art and Tech?

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Post by tenpoundhammer » Thu, Apr 04, 2013, 5:04 PM UTC

The 'artists' in this article sounded like a bunch of entitled twits. It sounded like they were saying rich people should be collecting art to support the community.

Maybe rich people from our generation want to put that money into starting new companies, philanthropy, or any number of other things. Why is art more important than any other good cause?

Re: Does Anyone Here Speak Art and Tech?

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Post by robbyking » Thu, Apr 04, 2013, 5:07 PM UTC

Me and most of my friends who work in tech are all big fans of art, but we buy most of our art from local (SF) artists showing in smaller galleries.

Re: Does Anyone Here Speak Art and Tech?

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Post by navait » Thu, Apr 04, 2013, 5:13 PM UTC

venomsnake wrote: post #11

But why should tech people collect art? If I have few millions dollars to spare I will throw them at Tim Schaffer to make Psychonauts 2 ... games can use maecenates as well. And they are much closer to the heart and mind of the tech community. The only thing I can read in this article is "Moooom, flow of money bypassing my pockets".

Why should tech people play video games? Video games rely on computers to work, but other than that, how are they closer to the soul of communities like hackernews than traditional art? Does being interested in programming mean people can't have interests outside of "nerdy" things?

Re: Does Anyone Here Speak Art and Tech?

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Post by quizbo » Thu, Apr 04, 2013, 5:15 PM UTC

S4M wrote: post #14

venomsnake wrote: post #11

But why should tech people collect art? If I have few millions dollars to spare I will throw them at Tim Schaffer to make Psychonauts 2 ... games can use maecenates as well. And they are much closer to the heart and mind of the tech community. The only thing I can read in this article is "Moooom, flow of money bypassing my pockets".

Yeah, exactly, when I was reading this article I had the feeling that art gallery people were considering mandatory for wealthy people to collect art. It doesn't give any reason on why they should.

It's a group that assumes it carries the torch for 'culture', but culture here defined as the exclusive 'high culture' they value and know something about. Perhaps a bit like the self-appointed musical aristocracy Nick Hornsby took the piss out of in High Fidelity.

Re: Does Anyone Here Speak Art and Tech?

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Post by syva » Thu, Apr 04, 2013, 5:21 PM UTC

fotoblur wrote: post #30

syva wrote: post #9

I work in this space; sadly not in NY, but here's our project: http://www.seditionart.com

I'd love to see what your site is about but don't want to create an account just to do so... I don't even get in the front door before I know I want to leave. Just my 2 cents.

Thanks for your feedback. We're changing this in the coming weeks :) For now, sorry about the barrier to entry.

Re: Does Anyone Here Speak Art and Tech?

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Post by [deleted] » Thu, Apr 04, 2013, 5:27 PM UTC

jeresig wrote: post #2

I was interviewed for this article, it looks like my comments were used well and relatively in context. That being said I definitely don't fit into the tech + art audience that was being defined in this article. It seems to be implied that there is a large amount of naïveté regarding art amongst techies, which is very true for the most part, and they're just looking to burn their piles of tech money on something pret…

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Re: Does Anyone Here Speak Art and Tech?

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Post by tlog333 » Thu, Apr 04, 2013, 5:27 PM UTC

Agree with earlier comment surprised http://artsy.net/ wasn't mentioned

Re: Does Anyone Here Speak Art and Tech?

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Post by larve » Thu, Apr 04, 2013, 5:29 PM UTC

samanbb wrote: post #25

Zikes wrote: post #4

Earlier quoted context omitted.

What role is deviantART [1] playing in tech+art in NYC and elsewhere? Is it considered significant by either party? [1] http://deviantart.com

deviantART has a reputation for being the most lowbrow of the popular art sharing sites on the Internet. It's all comics, bad photography, and fanart. No serious artist would put their work up there. Flickr is slightly more respected. Tumblr has the most respect among "real artists". Good coverage on the intersection between art and tech happens at http://rhizome.org/ & http://we-make-money-not-art.com/ .

this is definitely not true, although the focus is definitely on illustration/concept art/comics. there are some fantastic artists on deviant art.

Re: Does Anyone Here Speak Art and Tech?

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Post by mnicole » Thu, Apr 04, 2013, 5:34 PM UTC

jeresig wrote: post #2

I was interviewed for this article, it looks like my comments were used well and relatively in context. That being said I definitely don't fit into the tech + art audience that was being defined in this article. It seems to be implied that there is a large amount of naïveté regarding art amongst techies, which is very true for the most part, and they're just looking to burn their piles of tech money on something pret…

I'm a designer, but I've never been into traditional art because I grew up knowing that digital pieces could be so much more than traditional media. I think a lot of techies probably feel the same way; they're waiting for artists to better familiarize themselves with the tools we use because that's where the impressive stuff happens.

Not sure if any of these fit into your definition of art+tech, but I'm a huge fan of the stuff shown on Creative Applications (http://www.creativeapplications.net/). Joanie Lemercier's work also falls under this category (http://tumblr.joanielemercier.com/). Branden Hall is also doing a lot of interactive art pieces lately (https://vimeo.com/waxpraxis), and Manny Tan is doing some great visual stuff with various technologies as well (http://www.uncontrol.com/).

And since the individual post about it didn't get any love here the other day, the Flat Surface Shader project (http://wagerfield.github.com/flat-surface-shader/) is a great example of open-source pieces that others can fork and build off of that I hope we see a lot more of (in addition to designers and developers working on these types of projects together to begin with).

To that point, Chrome Experiments (http://workshop.chromeexperiments.com/) and Creative JS's tutorials (http://creativejs.com/tutorials/) are great introductions to what is possible for those wishing to delve into technical art. Nylllon (http://nylllon.com/) also does a good job of curating some great art+tech projects from time-to-time.