Live data from Hacker News

I Bought A Firetruck

geckodesigns.kinja.com

271–280 of 284 posts

Re: I Bought A Firetruck

#271
post #48

Earlier quoted context omitted.

If someone wrote about their experiences travelling the world, would you make a similar criticism? After all, they are flying, which causes a lot of extra carbon emissions. Or is the fire truck particularly bad for some reason?

As a European I don't understand the american fascination with impractically fhuge cars for every day commuting. Okay I get it, you want a big car for that roadtrip or vacation. Understandable, I do too. But for everyday stuff? My hatchback does perfectly fine around town ... hell, it does perfectly well on most vacations and long drives too.

Cut the guy some slack, he lives in Montana. Space and distances are hardly a rare commodity in Montana.

It's OK for other people to have a bit of fun. Really, it is.

Re: I Bought A Firetruck

#272

Reminds me of the old bulldozer that I very seriously thought of purchasing (always wanted a dozer). But in my case it was only about 5 miles away in a farmer's front yard with a "For Sale: $1,700" sign on it. Getting it home probably wouldn't have cost more than about $300.

A friend of mine bought an old excavator for $800. He spent about $1500 on fixing up the hydraulics, and used it to landscape his property. It was very rough but still went OK. When friends dropped around (like me) he would happily let us dig massive holes and fill them in again. I had a very happy afternoon digging and filling in, giggling like a kid in a sandpit.

He ended up selling it for a small profit to a guy down the road, and they just drove it there - clank clank clank down the street. I was sad the day I went around and the digger was gone.

Re: I Bought A Firetruck

#273

I've always thought that an old firetruck would make a much better RV conversion platform than an old bus. The reasoning is that a firetruck (especially a pumper truck) has a suspension that is designed to carry much more weight than a bus so you would not be as constrained in what you could build on top of it. Jay Leno did an excellent column about how amazing fire trucks are in terms of durability. The OP said that…

I live next door to a busy firehouse, and I've heard plenty of gripes about the perils of their newer truck vs the mid-80's pumper with 350k miles that replaced it. Based on the frequency that I see the department's backup engine next door, I tend to agree. Basically, the new trucks are unibody and much more fragile -- it turns out that new firetruck demand is driven by smaller/volunteer departments that don't put a…

That's the problem with durable equipment. It doesn't need to be replaced as often so the companies that make it go out of business.

Re: I Bought A Firetruck

#274
post #21

Is there some sort of crazy game of one-upmanship in the USA as to who can drive the most impractical gas guzzler? First it was stretch limos, then Hummers, then Hummer stretch limos. I wonder if we're gonna see stretch limo fire trucks… Edit (since I'm being downvoted): The story is cool, I just find the fact that he's driving it daily to work completely retarded. What the hell I consider driving a car to work to be…

> Is there some sort of crazy game of one-upmanship in the USA as to who can drive the most impractical gas guzzler? Not at all. It’s just that in the USA, things are on a different scale, and it makes sense to have larger vehicles. For example, a couple of years ago on eBay I bought a second-hand carrier battle group. Now, if you’re not from the USA, I can already hear you objecting that “it’s impractical” to drive…

I feel like this kind of comment should be on Reddit, not HN.

Re: I Bought A Firetruck

#275
post #21

Is there some sort of crazy game of one-upmanship in the USA as to who can drive the most impractical gas guzzler? First it was stretch limos, then Hummers, then Hummer stretch limos. I wonder if we're gonna see stretch limo fire trucks… Edit (since I'm being downvoted): The story is cool, I just find the fact that he's driving it daily to work completely retarded. What the hell I consider driving a car to work to be…

> Is there some sort of crazy game of one-upmanship in the USA as to who can drive the most impractical gas guzzler? Not at all. It’s just that in the USA, things are on a different scale, and it makes sense to have larger vehicles. For example, a couple of years ago on eBay I bought a second-hand carrier battle group. Now, if you’re not from the USA, I can already hear you objecting that “it’s impractical” to drive…

I feel like this kind of comment should be on Reddit, not HN.

Re: I Bought A Firetruck

#276

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I had a similar experience buying a MiG-17 as my primary vehicle to commute to work 17 miles away. The DMV was initially not happy about my taking off and landing on quiet highways, but luckily they became more understanding after many letters. How much did you end up paying for your CVBG?

Guys, I understand wanting to maximize your load-carrying efficiency, but decommissioned naval vessels and military aircraft are not the way to do it. For my commute, I chose rail instead – Budd Pioneer III-series rolling stock go for surprisingly little on eBay these days, and at least where I live, it's not terribly expensive to file the paperwork for a zoning easement to add a 700v third rail to a local stretch of…

>Guys, I understand wanting to maximize your load-carrying efficiency, but decommissioned naval vessels and military aircraft are not the way to do it.

I disagree. I understand the limitations of land-based military vehicles, but tmoertel has it right. Oceangoing vessels make for quite practical daily drivers. If you can afford it I would highly recommend a Nimitz-class aircraft carrier. I take it as a point of pride and efficiency that I only need to refuel it once every two decades, though I admit that sourcing a sufficient quantity of reactor grade fissile material for two separate reactors may be a bit of a hassle for the average commuter.

However, the advantages clearly outweigh the disadvantages. The 260,000 horsepower provided by the reactors supply plenty of energy to operate an on-site synthetic biofuel manufacturing facility to provide liquid fuel for the fleet of light aircraft in case I want to go to Costco or anywhere else not equipped with large enough pier to dock the carrier, and you can get a pretty good deal on decommissioned F-14 Tomcats these days. Plus, flying over all the traffic at Mach 2 is really satisfying.

And as time passes and technology improves the operating costs continue to fall. I've joined up with a pilot project in a joint venture between Google and Cyberdyne Systems to develop a self-driving carrier, and so far they've been able to reduce the required crew complement by more than 30% in just two years. I estimate that before the end of the decade we'll have it fully automated and then every American family will be able to operate their own carrier and fleet of fighter aircraft.

Re: I Bought A Firetruck

#277
post #195
post #49

Earlier quoted context omitted.

This is one thing that bugs me about complaints about the carbon emissions of cars. Planes cause far more carbon emissions, and they do it way up in the atmosphere where it seems plausible that it actually does more damage. It's a giant elephant in the room.

I would just like to add, that the general person uses a car a lot more often than a plane - and it all adds up. A lot of cars are used by a single person. Almost never (generalised) to it's full potential. I'm uncertain about this, but I think most planes are very well utilised (closer to the full potential rather than to the opposite) - since it's so uneconomical to go empty or close to empty utilisation. I'm not h…

"the general person uses a car a lot more often than a plane"

Average CO2 per person in the US is around 17 tonnes per year[1].

A single flight from LA to NYC (round trip) is equivalent to about 2 tonnes after taking into account some high-altitude effect[2].

Driving 12,000 miles per year at 25mpg releases about 4 tonnes[3].

So, if you cut your driving in half and then take one long domestic flight, you are just breaking even. If you take multiple long flights per year, you really have no hope of staying below the average carbon footprint for an american. Unless maybe you live in a tree or something.

I'm not saying this to be critical. I fly, and I am not ashamed of that. But we should be honest with ourselves, and not think that riding a bus once in a while and buying locally-sourced vegetables makes up for taking three international trips a year.

[1] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_carbon_dio... [2] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Environmental_impact_of_aviatio... [3] http://www.stewartmarion.com/carbon-footprint/html/carbon-fo...

Re: I Bought A Firetruck

#278
post #30
post #28

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It'll be slightly offset by the fact that it has a diesel engine. Not enough to make it equivalent to car, but it's something...

I've always wondered: why aren't there more diesel cars in the US?

The capital expense of a turbo diesel engine is unattractive given low U.S. fuel taxes. If fuel costs approached European levels, Americans would go nuts buying them.

Re: I Bought A Firetruck

#279

I've always thought that an old firetruck would make a much better RV conversion platform than an old bus. The reasoning is that a firetruck (especially a pumper truck) has a suspension that is designed to carry much more weight than a bus so you would not be as constrained in what you could build on top of it. Jay Leno did an excellent column about how amazing fire trucks are in terms of durability. The OP said that…

I have been involved in the fire service for some time. Yes you could use that type of fire apparatus to convert to an RV but as was stated the suspension on the fire truck is ruff at the best of times (some of the newer ones with air suspension aren't horrible). The National Fire Service will rely on large brush trucks which are more like modified F350 for forest fires. While a pump will be utilized it won't be the bread and butter for them. My point being that the fire truck pumper is radically different from a brush truck.

Re: I Bought A Firetruck

#280

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I drive a 2012 Subaru Impreza. Before that I drove a 2001 Hyundai Accent and before that a 1997 Kia Sephia. All of those are small cars, maybe it is because I am from The Netherlands but I never considered a large car, they slurp gas like it is going out of style and I want something compact that I can park almost anywhere. What I do like is that even with a small circle of friends it is almost guaranteed that you kn…

A Subaru Impreza is considered a small car ?????? It's more than 4.3 meters long ! I have a Renault Twingo (3.4 meters long), and before that I had a Maruti 800 (3.2 meters long). http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Renault_Twingo http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Maruti_800 That's what I consider a small car :) . My father had a Fiat 600 (the original one), and now has a Suzuki Maruti Alto/A-Star http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Su…

My grandma owned a Toyota Aigo and now drives a VW Golf. Love both of those cars, but I like the station wagon like look from the Impreza.

Yes, the Impreza is a small car, I've seen people drive that in The Netherlands (although Subaru seems to be pretty rare there). Compare it to an Audi A6 wagon for example, plenty of those available.

I guess small is in the eye of the beholder, my car isn't much bigger than my grandpa's Opel Astra for example, and that is considered a small car in The Netherlands.

Post reply on HN