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Re: Sublime Text 2 Web Inspector

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Post by 1qaz2wsx3edc »

zevyoura wrote: post #28
shurcooL wrote: post #23

Earlier quoted context omitted.

This is why I tried creating my own simple "text editor" within my experimenta live IDE, so that I would not be limited by anyone's API or closed source and could create something more unusual. Is it a better approach? It's really hard to say, and definitely not obvious. I had to re-create a lot of existing functionality just so that I could more easily modify it. And clearly I cannot compete with the advanced functi…

Have you thought of building on top of a library like CodeMirror (which Light Table is built on)?' edit: ST2 -> Light Table

I'm actually working on something like this for myself; In the future I hope to support sublime plugins. Entirely haml/coffee, built with node-webkit and ace-editor. Based off of TextDrive a chrome app.

Currently there is a more advanced editor (brackets). But I want total control of the stack. I'm tired of closed source editors (sublime), or overly complex c-based editors (textmate, vi, etc). I think it can be done just as well with web technologies. I also don't like remote editors (cloud9), I want it local.

Light Table takes an entirely difference approach. I'm just going for a simple editor, no-integrated-repl-thingie.

Re: Sublime Text 2 Web Inspector

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Post by milkshakes »

hartator wrote: post #38
milkshakes wrote: post #26

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So, can we agree that it is unreasonable to assume that developing and open sourcing a Package Addon for a popular ShareWare tool should obligate an an author to purchase a license for the software his work is targeting ?

I think 8ig8 was the one saying that the licence does't really allow you to skip the $70. I think you have made the confusion between 8ig8 and whao.

i do not believe that i am confused. let me recap for you just in case

whao: who cares whether he paid, he contributed value

8gig8: i concede that he has contributed value, but maintain that the package author has violated the license

me: i disagree with your assertion that the author has violated the license, and place the burden of responsibility on you to substantiate your claims

8gig8: i will vaguely avoid substantiating my claim

me: at this point i will express the reasons why i disagreed with your claim and ask you whether you agree with them or not

8gig8: (crickets)

Re: Sublime Text 2 Web Inspector

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Post by mrharrison »

MJR wrote: post #4

That looks very interesting, but typing several lines of text rather than speaking them is painful to sit through. I would suggest turning off the music next time and just tell people what it is and how it works.

I liked the video presentation and the music. Thought it was quite nice. Thought what was going on was very clear.

Re: Sublime Text 2 Web Inspector

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Post by sneak »

youngerdryas wrote: post #59
coldtea wrote: post #58

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People don't ascribe in anything that's "the law" or "established". Take the US for example. Slavery was the law back in the day. Segregated buses, hotels, restaurants and housing areas for blacks and whites was also the law, just 50 years ago. Death penalty is still the law today.

You don't have a fundamental right to his program. The rise of the Internet hippy is painful to watch.

Nope, you're right. But he also has no fundamental right to get paid for being the first to magnetize his hard drive in a certain configuration.

Re: Sublime Text 2 Web Inspector

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Post by Shorel »

8ig8 wrote: post #11
milkshakes wrote: post #7

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why are you surprised by this? we don't all have $70 lying around

I'm surprised because someone who has committed this much time to developing an extension is arguably beyond the evaluation phase. > Sublime Text 2 may be downloaded and evaluated for free, however a license must be purchased for continued use.

This is by design.

The more people that uses ST2, the more people that buys it.

Preventing people from using it will only make them look for and use an alternative.

You may call it 'DRM by guilt' if you wish.

Re: Sublime Text 2 Web Inspector

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Post by sokolovstas »

iurisilvio wrote: post #79
sokolovstas wrote: post #76

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Some day I will buy it :) but I must know that when I bought it I would have all that I need %)

Seriously, add a donate button to that page! I'm almost paying you through gittip, but I prefer if you have a default option to it.

I added a donate button!

Re: Sublime Text 2 Web Inspector

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Post by robotresearcher »

sneak wrote: post #32
melling wrote: post #24

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$70 isn't a lot of money. Is it an hour of your time? Maybe two? If people don't want to pay that's fine, use one of the great open source editors. Saying you don't have the money doesn't make it ok to violate the license. rms works hard to give you emacs for free. The Sublime guys are trying to earn a living.

No, the fact that licensing ideas is a bullshit scam is why it's ok to violate the license. IP is an abstraction. We don't all subscribe to it. Please do not take away from this comment that I don't think devs should get paid.

The license is asking you to pay to use the working code. It doesn't say anything about ideas.

Re: Sublime Text 2 Web Inspector

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Post by evilduck »

microtonal wrote: post #67
mark_integerdsv wrote: post #36

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70 US Dollar equals 643.45 South African Rand. To put that in perspective: R650 is a basic grocery shop for my small family for a week. I have a day job, a baby under a year old, another kid reaching teenagerdom and a bootstrapped startup. My wife works part time. I wish more startups and even more mature companies would build in some sort of currency sensitive sliding scale for their pricing models. I know what a ba…

I know it's hard to implement and people will abuse it, but I always thought it would be nice if registration fees are per country or region, maybe scaled to the median income. In that manner, more people could afford to buy a program and the developer could probably earn more income. That said, I purchased Sublime Text, but I mostly use vim, because my brain is not wired for modeless editing :).

ST2 has vintage mode (modal). It's not perfect, but it's something.

Re: Sublime Text 2 Web Inspector

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Post by skeletonjelly »

cpleppert wrote: post #37
MJR wrote: post #4

That looks very interesting, but typing several lines of text rather than speaking them is painful to sit through. I would suggest turning off the music next time and just tell people what it is and how it works.

I don't think english is his native language… At least there was a screencast showing off the features

From the demo code: $scope.Russia = true

I'm guessing Russian

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