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Re: Google Kills Its RSS Subscription Browser Extension Too

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Post by icebraining »

Kiro wrote: post #38
choko wrote: post #16

I don't understand what people use to see new information from multiple websites at once if they aren't using RSS. Are they actually visiting 10 or 20 websites a day manually? Do "normal" users stick to just a few websites?

You don't need updates from 10 to 20 websites. Find one or two good aggregators. HN and Facebook are enough for me.

HN and such aggregators are nice for fluff content, which appeals to a broad range of people. More specific content either isn't aggregated, or the aggregators themselves are so niche that they only update once in a while (e.g. Lambda-the-Ultimate). And frankly, while obviously none is indispensable for my life or well-being, I'd rather miss out on HN than on the smaller blogs and feeds.

Re: Google Kills Its RSS Subscription Browser Extension Too

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Post by icebraining »

streptomycin wrote: post #54
lignuist wrote: post #14

Twitter has disabled RSS this month too. Is RSS too open for the big players?

No they didn't. Still works: https://api.twitter.com/1/statuses/user_timeline.rss?screen_... They have said they're planning to get rid of it sometime soon, though. Sucks for people like me who used Google Reader to keep track of Twitter RSS feeds, ha. Google Reader is really easy to replace, at least. I'm much more upset about Twitter.

Building bridges is not really that hard. I have a few transforming closed "feeds" into RSS running on my VPS.

Re: Google Kills Its RSS Subscription Browser Extension Too

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Post by icebraining »

baby wrote: post #49
lignuist wrote: post #14

Twitter has disabled RSS this month too. Is RSS too open for the big players?

I disabled it on my blog a long time ago because I want people to actually come to my website to read my posts. See the "related" posts and the "comments" section etc... I guess it's even more obvious if you have ads on the website.

That's what Yahoo! Pipes is for.

Re: Google Kills Its RSS Subscription Browser Extension Too

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Post by krzyk »

baby wrote: post #58
craftman wrote: post #53

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Dont know your site, but be sure I would never come back to it if you dont have a RSS feed (and leave it within 2 secs if there is any ad on it).

I know this is some people's problems. But I believe it is the minority. So I've made my decision. I also don't support old IE browsers.

But why disable something that you don't have to even support, most (if not all) blog time sites provide an easy way to provide RSS.

You are alienating maybe a minority, but I think maybe a more valuable part of you readers - large part of HN readers use RSS (at least it seams so based on latest Google Reader deprecation).

There is no value in removing RSS, you are just crippling your site.

Re: Google Kills Its RSS Subscription Browser Extension Too

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Post by ableal »

derefr wrote: post #62
MatthewPhillips wrote: post #55

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> I don't see how the way in which something is developed before its first release has any bearing on whether its current development is community-driven. You don't? Go look at the nacl commit logs and count how many non-Google employees are contributing. That it was developed in secret is precisely the reason for this (not because they are against outside contributors today). If you develop a supposedly open technol…

> Whatever you may feel about NaCl, Microsoft, Apple and Mozilla don't think it's good. Microsoft and Apple have very obvious reasons to avoid supporting NaCl, whatever they think of it--it is the last step in nullifying the relevance of Operating Systems. A browser that runs code at native speed is an operating system, fullstop. Mozilla is, as far as I can tell, just doing that same overly-idealist thing that Debian…

> A browser that runs code at native speed is an operating system, fullstop.

You could give some people a stroke with that statement. They probably would mind that a supposedly sandboxed browser is fully controlling the hardware.

Re: Google Kills Its RSS Subscription Browser Extension Too

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Post by nonamegiven »

mark_l_watson wrote: post #73
Andrenid wrote: post #34

Earlier quoted context omitted.

This is actually the final step for me. I've been an avid Google fan since the early days. I use all the Google services, I use Chrome religiously, I convince family/friends to switch to Chrome from IE, and I've always been convinced Google is the one we're supposed to look up to for how things should be done. Yeah they've made mistakes, and G+ is a clusterfuck of brilliant talent thrown down a horrible path of close…

"I don't want to "like" them or add them to my social networks. I just want to read their shit." +1 this nails it. I do share content links a few times a month on twitter and g+ but basically I want to read interesting stuff. I have also started to realize that I rely too much on HN and Prismatic - nice sources of interesting material, but still limited. This appropriate shit storm over google moving to a walled g+ g…

I have this vague idea of an open, minimal social network that is little more than the internet:

- If you want to just read, use an RSS reader and subscribe to ... stuff.

- If you want to participate, get a personal page via someone like Wordpress that serves RSS, or run your own via your choice of technology if you want.

- If you want to build relationships between RSS serving participants, use the missing RSS feature that allows client RSS readers and site RSS readers (another missing piece) to piece together inter-site RSS conversations and relationships.

- Mix in some personal privacy and control, and you're done.

EDIT: add missing word.

Re: Google Kills Its RSS Subscription Browser Extension Too

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Post by BHSPitMonkey »

mike-cardwell wrote: post #64
ok_craig wrote: post #52

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I don't understand why these changes make you switch from Chrome to Firefox. There appears to be a really prevalent attitude here on HN that you can either really love or really hate a company. If you like it, you use all their stuff. When the switch in your mind flips and you know you must instantly start hating them, it means you must stop using every instance of their software, whether it's related or not to whate…

Chrome is created by an Ad company so that they can make more money selling Ads. People are willing to overlook this fact because they trust that Google wont put it's own desire to make profit over keeping the web open. People are losing the trust that this is the case. If somebody comes up with some new technology that makes the web better in some way, but also means it's more difficult or impossible to target adver…

Does using Chrome or Chromium somehow serve Google and its nefarious goals?

Re: Google Kills Its RSS Subscription Browser Extension Too

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Post by mkr-hn »

hosay123 wrote: post #108
lucian1900 wrote: post #31

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NaCl (in particular PNaCl) is merely a different approach. I would call asm.js crazy, but that's just me. Something similar could be said about Dart, but there the language itself is not so interesting (merely not insane). The VM is potentially the language-independent bytecode and stdlib in a browser we've all been waiting for. While Google have been behavin evil-ly lately, in particular related to Google+, NaCl and…

Nacl is not merely a different approach, it's a wholly backwards incompatible approach based on techniques that tried and failed in the 80s (try searching for ANDF).

A lot of things were tried in the past, but they fail for a variety of reasons. Some are picked up later and work because the fatal problems were addressed. I couldn't find much on ANDF. Can you be more specific about why it failed?

Re: Google Kills Its RSS Subscription Browser Extension Too

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Post by camus »

baby wrote: post #48
choko wrote: post #16

I don't understand what people use to see new information from multiple websites at once if they aren't using RSS. Are they actually visiting 10 or 20 websites a day manually? Do "normal" users stick to just a few websites?

Bookmarks. I personally have multi row toolbar and Tree Style Tab on Firefox. I really see no need for RSS (and yes I tried it[1]) [1] https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=5383772

bookmarks dont update themselves automatically when new articles are available ,dont tell you what you've already read or not and are not an open protocol to share information across websites.
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