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Lousy web design trends that are making a comeback due to HTML5

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Re: Lousy web design trends that are making a comeback due to HTML5

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Post by lchang »

walshemj wrote: post #130
STRML wrote: post #23

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It's hard to believe that a site with that kind of traffic & resources hasn't even bothered to concatenate and minify its JS & CSS. Most of the JS files still have comments. Bizarre. They should know better.

its old school publishers who often have very little idea what they are doing and have sclerotic development processes 9 week sprints! in one case. One site I worked on did not manage to sort out a redirect of its .net version of its domain and its over 2 Years since a flagged this as a high priority problem.

Yes, but the New York Times employs top-notch webdevs.

See http://open.blogs.nytimes.com/ and http://www.nytimes.com/projects/2012/snow-fall/

So they have the skills, but maybe it's for other reasons they don't follow those practices.

Re: Lousy web design trends that are making a comeback due to HTML5

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Post by mgcross »

"Images used for text" - Ok, what am I missing here? I see fewer and fewer sites using image text every day. And the linked example (weesociety.com) appears to use images only for photos. SVG logo? Is that a problem? Even SVG for the SM icons.

"...but most people do not use iPads to visit websites" Hmmm.

Re: Lousy web design trends that are making a comeback due to HTML5

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Post by habosa »

pkorzeniewski wrote: post #14

What strikes me most is how websites are visually getting more and more minimalistic and at the same time they're loading and working slower. For example The New York Times [1] layout is as simple as possible (basically text only with some images), but it loads 20 JS files, 13 CSS files, makes ~200 requests and uses ~14 MB of memory on load. [1] http://www.nytimes.com/

Two HUNDRED requests? How is this acceptable for a website that's so frequently accessed via mobile. With latency ~30ms you're wasting 6s before you even download anything!

Re: Lousy web design trends that are making a comeback due to HTML5

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Post by mdaniel »

mnicole wrote: post #47

Ah, yes, the infamous "trend" list that only shows one example per anti-pattern and it's some random never-before-seen website where clearly they couldn't afford a better designer. Outside of the whole part where HTML5 has nothing to do with any of these, nor are they "comebacks". Trends I'm waiting to be over: people without a clue about the web writing about the web and people who upvote articles without reading th…

As a small aside, I often upvote the HN submission if the discussions are valuable -- independent of the actual linked content.

Re: Lousy web design trends that are making a comeback due to HTML5

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Post by pinwale »

lchang wrote: post #131
walshemj wrote: post #130

Earlier quoted context omitted.

its old school publishers who often have very little idea what they are doing and have sclerotic development processes 9 week sprints! in one case. One site I worked on did not manage to sort out a redirect of its .net version of its domain and its over 2 Years since a flagged this as a high priority problem.

Yes, but the New York Times employs top-notch webdevs. See http://open.blogs.nytimes.com/ and http://www.nytimes.com/projects/2012/snow-fall/ So they have the skills, but maybe it's for other reasons they don't follow those practices.

The New York Times built the current site in 2006. The Times just announced that they have are working on a new site design (and presumably completely new architecture) for the last year and should release it soon.

source: http://www.nytimes.com/marketing/prototype/

Re: Lousy web design trends that are making a comeback due to HTML5

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Post by just2n »

The complaint about "images for text" is only valid if the developers behind the site didn't actually think about the problem. You can have this cake and eat it too. Provide the same content in text as you do in images, and Google will be happy to show that in search results, even if it's not visible to your average desktop user. If you care about accessibility at all, you've already solved the problem.

One thing that's horribly annoying, though, is searching for text, landing on a site that has the text you searched for in images or otherwise mutilated with CSS, and having no way to highlight it for copy/pasting. For pulling that one, there's a special place in web hell for you, right next to IE 6.

Re: Lousy web design trends that are making a comeback due to HTML5

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Post by vacri »

ericcholis wrote: post #22

So many issues with this article. What on earth does a 404 page have to do with HTML 5? Hidden navigation on http://orangesprocket.com/ is a design decision. Is it HTML 5 related because it uses CSS3 animations? This effect could have been achieved in any Javascript framework for quite some time.

I was also thinking what a 404 has to do with design decisions. "Oh, and we'll put a link here that goes to a 404, that's popular these days!"

Re: Lousy web design trends that are making a comeback due to HTML5

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Post by [deleted] »

networked wrote: post #116
jakub_g wrote: post #57

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This should be regulated somehow (yeah, I know, I sound like an 19th century guy). But probably lobbyist won't give up on that easily. I have disabled all that crap in my adblock, but there are millions of people who are not that savvy / aware etc. My friend from Germany told me that in some (but not all) the pages, there are dummy social buttons loaded by default, you have to "enable" them. Try any article at [1]. I…

>there are dummy social buttons loaded by default, you have to "enable" them Neat. This looks like a very reasonable way to go if you decide to have social buttons. Is there a ready-made solution for this?

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