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Lousy web design trends that are making a comeback due to HTML5

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Re: Lousy web design trends that are making a comeback due to HTML5

#22
So many issues with this article.

What on earth does a 404 page have to do with HTML 5?

Hidden navigation on http://orangesprocket.com/ is a design decision. Is it HTML 5 related because it uses CSS3 animations? This effect could have been achieved in any Javascript framework for quite some time.

Re: Lousy web design trends that are making a comeback due to HTML5

#23

What strikes me most is how websites are visually getting more and more minimalistic and at the same time they're loading and working slower. For example The New York Times [1] layout is as simple as possible (basically text only with some images), but it loads 20 JS files, 13 CSS files, makes ~200 requests and uses ~14 MB of memory on load. [1] http://www.nytimes.com/

It's hard to believe that a site with that kind of traffic & resources hasn't even bothered to concatenate and minify its JS & CSS. Most of the JS files still have comments. Bizarre. They should know better.

Re: Lousy web design trends that are making a comeback due to HTML5

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What strikes me most is how websites are visually getting more and more minimalistic and at the same time they're loading and working slower. For example The New York Times [1] layout is as simple as possible (basically text only with some images), but it loads 20 JS files, 13 CSS files, makes ~200 requests and uses ~14 MB of memory on load. [1] http://www.nytimes.com/

The NYT website is not something usual. That's a website made up for a newspaper, a giant newspaper, with dozen of business, info and other resources playing a role of importance in the frontpage. But I'm with you: the web even with HTML5 can be fatty, pretty fat, but I prefer this, than Flash one, forever.

Re: Lousy web design trends that are making a comeback due to HTML5

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I especially agree with regard to loading screens. For example some blogs have this "gears" animation before they display their text. I'm not sure who ever came up with thinking that might be a good idea... even if the site is slow that it required a few seconds of loading, just showing text and images incrementally means that you can start reading immediately instead of waiting for the "funny" animation.

Re: Lousy web design trends that are making a comeback due to HTML5

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post #23

What strikes me most is how websites are visually getting more and more minimalistic and at the same time they're loading and working slower. For example The New York Times [1] layout is as simple as possible (basically text only with some images), but it loads 20 JS files, 13 CSS files, makes ~200 requests and uses ~14 MB of memory on load. [1] http://www.nytimes.com/

It's hard to believe that a site with that kind of traffic & resources hasn't even bothered to concatenate and minify its JS & CSS. Most of the JS files still have comments. Bizarre. They should know better.

I like to think they are trying to preserve the spirit of being able to right click->view source and learn a thing or two. Geocities + view source did spark early interest for myself in coding.

Maybe sourcemaps will help with that in the future.

Re: Lousy web design trends that are making a comeback due to HTML5

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post #19

I agree with a lot of the points, but I'm taking a limited exception to loading screens. Sure, most of the time in ordinary websites there isn't a point. On the other hand, there is now a class of "website" (such as games, demos, productivity tools etc.) more broadly in the category of "web application" that do need to load a bunch of resources, they can't run before they don't have them, and they will include a load…

Eh, sure, a loading screen is perfectly OK if you have a game or demo or something. But that's the exception not the rule. For forums, blogs and news sites and such it's absolutely a no-go.
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