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Lousy web design trends that are making a comeback due to HTML5

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Re: Lousy web design trends that are making a comeback due to HTML5

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Post by MiguelHudnandez »

phlyingpenguin wrote: post #11
cscheid wrote: post #5

Aside from this being about design and not HTML5, is anyone else not surprised they didn't include "550 social +1, like, tweet, twat buttons"? Look at that website: there's a social banner, a social footer, a social sidebar, animated gifs for ads. Make that 15 lousy web design trends.

This is exactly what I was thinking after dismissing the gigantic "Join FREE as a bronze member..." popup at the bottom of the screen. -- snip --: Lame pop-ups I’ve never used this site before, so immediately asking me to create a free account is absolutely pointless, and more so when the pop-up does not automatically disappear when I ignore it.

A screenshot of the hypocrisy:

http://i.imgur.com/jDLT5V4.png

Re: Lousy web design trends that are making a comeback due to HTML5

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Post by romaniv »

ericcholis wrote: post #22

So many issues with this article. What on earth does a 404 page have to do with HTML 5? Hidden navigation on http://orangesprocket.com/ is a design decision. Is it HTML 5 related because it uses CSS3 animations? This effect could have been achieved in any Javascript framework for quite some time.

You would be surprised how may designers dismiss basic usability concerns by saying something along the lines "this is an app, not a website".

Every wave of technologies carries a certain culture with itself. A lot of the things in the list are quite characteristic of HTML5 culture. I agree on 404s, though.

Re: Lousy web design trends that are making a comeback due to HTML5

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Post by g8oz »

pkorzeniewski wrote: post #14

What strikes me most is how websites are visually getting more and more minimalistic and at the same time they're loading and working slower. For example The New York Times [1] layout is as simple as possible (basically text only with some images), but it loads 20 JS files, 13 CSS files, makes ~200 requests and uses ~14 MB of memory on load. [1] http://www.nytimes.com/

NYT is best accessed with JS turned off. Also Ghostery FTW in general.

Re: Lousy web design trends that are making a comeback due to HTML5

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Post by robmcm »

jedahan wrote: post #26
STRML wrote: post #23

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It's hard to believe that a site with that kind of traffic & resources hasn't even bothered to concatenate and minify its JS & CSS. Most of the JS files still have comments. Bizarre. They should know better.

I like to think they are trying to preserve the spirit of being able to right click->view source and learn a thing or two. Geocities + view source did spark early interest for myself in coding. Maybe sourcemaps will help with that in the future.

Perhaps adding a commented link in a minified file to a full version? Wouldn't be hard to automate.

Re: Lousy web design trends that are making a comeback due to HTML5

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Post by jakub_g »

dreen wrote: post #76
jakub_g wrote: post #57

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This should be regulated somehow (yeah, I know, I sound like an 19th century guy). But probably lobbyist won't give up on that easily. I have disabled all that crap in my adblock, but there are millions of people who are not that savvy / aware etc. My friend from Germany told me that in some (but not all) the pages, there are dummy social buttons loaded by default, you have to "enable" them. Try any article at [1]. I…

Learn to block Javascript selectively, for instance using NoScript you can block JS from Facebook unless you actually are on a facebook.com domain. This gets rid of the annoying social button functionality.

You can do pretty much the same with Adblock's rules like:

||facebook.com^$third-party

and a couple of others (fbcdn, facebook.net etc.).

Re: Lousy web design trends that are making a comeback due to HTML5

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Post by drdaeman »

icebraining wrote: post #73
driverdan wrote: post #64

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Disable 3rd party cookies, tracking woes averted.

Unless they use any other tracking system, like ETags[1]. [1]: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HTTP_ETag#Tracking_using_ETags

Disable fetching any third party resources of all sorts, problem solved.

Obviously, rulesets should be tuples of (source pattern, resource type, destination pattern), not silly lists ("allow google.com", huh?) like most browser extensions do.

Re: Lousy web design trends that are making a comeback due to HTML5

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Post by meepmorp »

ygra wrote: post #43
meerita wrote: post #24

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The NYT website is not something usual. That's a website made up for a newspaper, a giant newspaper, with dozen of business, info and other resources playing a role of importance in the frontpage. But I'm with you: the web even with HTML5 can be fatty, pretty fat, but I prefer this, than Flash one, forever.

Newspapers had Flash websites?

For video and other multimedia content, sure. The NYT, at least, has a fair amount of such content.

Re: Lousy web design trends that are making a comeback due to HTML5

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Post by marssaxman »

charonn0 wrote: post #80

I really hope the trend of using lightbox-like login popups (e.g. [1]) goes away very soon; they tend to break Firefox's password manager and add absolutely nothing of value. [1]: http://i51.photobucket.com/albums/f351/charonn0/vtlogin_zpsb...

Hate those things. Just when we finally got popups squashed dead, asshole web designers found a way to reinvent them, and now they're even harder to kill.

Re: Lousy web design trends that are making a comeback due to HTML5

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Post by pasbesoin »

Cthulhu_ wrote: post #54
moe wrote: post #32

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I keep wondering: Does anyone actually use these social buttons? I tried a few times but the experience has always been so terrible and inconsistent that I've long reverted to simply sharing the good old copy/paste way.

> I keep wondering: Does anyone actually use these social buttons? The suppliers of said social buttons do; every time you see one while you're logged into FB / G+ / Twitter, a hit of you visiting that site is registered at said parties, and they can all, thanks to the prevalence of these sharing buttons, track your internet usage.

Exactly. I block them. I just hope "the web" continues to be "open" enough to allow me to do so.
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