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Re: Stop Corporate Takeover of New Internet Names

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Post by mdc » Mon, Mar 11, 2013, 2:52 AM UTC

itry wrote: post #43

mdc wrote: post #33

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It seems like this solution means that if you want to have your own domain, either you must be rich or the website must be profitable. You're basically saying that only the rich should have access to domain-branded blogs and other non-commercial sites, and everyone else can make do with subdomains like a blogspot or blogger website. I think raising fees would have consequences for well-intentioned users far beyond th…

"It seems like this solution means that if you want to have your own domain, either you must be rich or the website must be profitable" Not really. Looks like the namespace is big enough for all of us. Your post made me curious how crowded the .com space really is and within 30s of trying, I found this free gem: notrichbuthappy.com Nothing wrong with it for a blog, right?

Not at all. I wasn't saying the .com namespace was crowded. I was responding to someone who thought it was and who thought the appropriate solution was increasing domain registration prices.

Re: Stop Corporate Takeover of New Internet Names

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Post by gmazzotti » Mon, Mar 11, 2013, 3:07 AM UTC

hello_newman wrote: post #73

CrLf wrote: post #38

Franky, I don't see the point of this. It opens an all-new can of worms, just like allowing unicode in DNS, while being useless even for marketing purposes (people are used to sites being ".com" and suspect anything else). So ".com" is crowded. It would be much better if someone did something about squatters. So many parked domains and so little done about it...

I agree. I think a viable solution would be something like if you haven't done something with in 1 year then the domain becomes available. I personally hate getting an idea, checking through domains only to see someone waiting for someone else to purchase their domain that they bought for $10 bucks off godaddy.

So domainers only have to upload a Wordpress and post some blog post (with copied content) and they have done something with the domain,that is not the solution

Re: Stop Corporate Takeover of New Internet Names

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Post by veidr » Mon, Mar 11, 2013, 10:12 AM UTC

CrLf wrote: post #38

Franky, I don't see the point of this. It opens an all-new can of worms, just like allowing unicode in DNS, while being useless even for marketing purposes (people are used to sites being ".com" and suspect anything else). So ".com" is crowded. It would be much better if someone did something about squatters. So many parked domains and so little done about it...

Allowing languages other than English to participate in DNS may open a can of worms, but it is at least a significant advance that addresses a fundamental flaw in the Internet. (How would you feel if all internet addresses looked like 啤酒女孩和快速的汽車.可卡因, and you just had to deal with it if you wanted to use the internet?)

But in this case, I also fail to see how this really benefits anyone other than those who manage to monopolize and monetize TLD.

Re: Stop Corporate Takeover of New Internet Names

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Post by pfraze » Mon, Mar 11, 2013, 2:11 PM UTC

ScottBurson wrote: post #76

pfraze wrote: post #75

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Parking is hard to fight. How do you define appropriate usage? Then, once you have, how do you deal with the services which will emerge to populate your domain while you squat?

It's trivial to fight. Just raise the amount that the first-level registrar pays ICANN to something like $10/year. ICANN gets a huge pile of money and speculative domain squatting becomes, with rare exceptions, uneconomic. Domains probably get more expensive for the rest of us, but I can live with that.

What do the first-level registrars pay currently? Would that bump cause the yearly cost for the domain-buyers to increase by $10? If so, I don't understand why that's enough to have the effect against parking.

Re: Stop Corporate Takeover of New Internet Names

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Post by ZachPruckowski » Wed, Mar 13, 2013, 2:45 PM UTC

null_ptr wrote: post #65

larrys wrote: post #60

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"domain squatter behavior is damaging to those that would make beneficial use of the domain name space." How would you propose to determine beneficial use of a domain name? For example let's say the domain "pifflesnort.com" was taken by someone in 2003 who decided to use it periodically to post a list of movies they had watched on TV. Now you come along (in 2013) and you want it to do something more than that (say do…

I don't think it's difficult to draw a line between a dude keeping a list of movies he watched and a "This domain may be for sale, meanwhile search for shoes and mortgages" clone page. We shouldn't be afraid to call things out for what they are. The dude with the movie list is doing it because he enjoys it, so what if only a handful of people in the world ever read it. The clone squatter page on the other hand, provi…

>I don't think it's difficult to draw a line between a dude keeping a list of movies he watched and a "This domain may be for sale, meanwhile search for shoes and mortgages" clone page.

For a human, it's not that difficult. But if you pay that human $15/hour and he does a site every two minutes, it costs you 50 cents to check each website.