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So, to see an example, I have to build it and deploy an application? I don't understand this tendency of posting links to a github page that presents no screenshots or examples.
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IANAL, but I don't think that "too inspired" is really the sort of thing that is covered by the DMCA, and in any case, you can't file a notice to take down the whole project just because you think three icons are derived from your work. As for the newspaper icon, it has already been pointed out that LayerVault's version is far more similar to this icon from The Noun Project ( http://thenounproject.com/noun/newspaper/…
Upvote for the Noune Project part! LayerVault might of bought a Noune Project icon license however, but still, it's all too coincidental, even when you look at the colour scheme. You can't copyright a shape & colour combinations (mainly squares) however, so it does make it tougher to call something a huge 'rip'
Let's suppose they had bought such a license, and let's call the shared similarity between the LV icon and the FUI icon "X". Let's also suppose that X is copyrightable. The problem is that X is also shared by the TNP icon. So LV wouldn't have ownership of X, and wouldn't have any right to file a DMCA notice based on it.
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The distinction I think I've seen is that designers are often more inclined to assert ownership of an abstract idea, whereas developers tend to assert ownership of the concrete and often revile the notion of owning ideas. I say this because (in general), whilst developers would not violate a license or steal code, they would often happily implement the same idea someone else had from scratch without any qualms. You c…
> they would often happily implement the same idea someone else had from scratch without any qualms There is only one MD5. There is only one preorder traversal of a binary tree. Creativity is essential, but unless you do those kinds of things the same way as everyone else, you're doing them wrong and will get the wrong results.
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The distinction I think I've seen is that designers are often more inclined to assert ownership of an abstract idea, whereas developers tend to assert ownership of the concrete and often revile the notion of owning ideas. I say this because (in general), whilst developers would not violate a license or steal code, they would often happily implement the same idea someone else had from scratch without any qualms. You c…
> they would often happily implement the same idea someone else had from scratch without any qualms There is only one MD5. There is only one preorder traversal of a binary tree. Creativity is essential, but unless you do those kinds of things the same way as everyone else, you're doing them wrong and will get the wrong results.
As far as I know, nobody got DMCAed by the inventors of either for writing one.
Yet here, we have designers trying to claim ownership of a particular set of colours and a vague notion of style. Both of which were around before their "implementation" was.
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The distinction I think I've seen is that designers are often more inclined to assert ownership of an abstract idea, whereas developers tend to assert ownership of the concrete and often revile the notion of owning ideas. I say this because (in general), whilst developers would not violate a license or steal code, they would often happily implement the same idea someone else had from scratch without any qualms. You c…
> they would often happily implement the same idea someone else had from scratch without any qualms There is only one MD5. There is only one preorder traversal of a binary tree. Creativity is essential, but unless you do those kinds of things the same way as everyone else, you're doing them wrong and will get the wrong results.
I don't guess you're a developer or coder.
Being that the speed of MD5 has increased greatly on the same hardware over the years has shown there are many, if not infinite ways of finding an md5sum. Essentially code is math and number are infinite. You could calculate a number with multiplication and call it NumberTwizzle(TM), I could then look at your formula and write a new formula with bit shifts that runs twice and outputs the exact same answer. I could not call it NumberTwizzle though.
>Creativity is essential, but unless you do those kinds of things the same way as everyone else,
This partial sentence, I don't even. Creativity is looking at what other people are doing and coming up with a 'better', 'cheaper', or 'faster' (maybe all) solution to an existing problem. doing 'things' the same way as everyone else is the exact opposite of creativity.
From the images we've seen all side by side this seems to be a rip of someone else's work. Nicking people stuff isn't what Hacker News is about. I've had articles I've sent hours writing and issued DMCA takedown notices, just as the same as if someone stole my code. To take down a site using your stuff, you use a DMCA takedown notice. - That doesn't mean you're abusing the DMCA - That doesn't mean that the party that…
The current trend in web design is these ever-simpler icon designs. I can imagine there's only so many ways you can represent common icons using simple geometric shapes and (the infamous) rounded corners. LayerVault may feel they have a case, but I'm sure there's 5 other icon sets out there that could claim LayerVault is infringing on them.
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I think that this is part of a bigger problem; a lot of people find design to be "easy" in that it's subjective - Client A doesn't like your work but Client B does. Can't even get a job in the field? No worries, people flock to 99Designs and Fiverr for cheap, tacky work that validates the crummy designer. Working for someone with no morals? They'll show you some styles they like and tell you they want it "exactly" li…
Yep, designers sell their designs whereas developers sell their expertise. It's this way because that's what the market wants right now. When companies start to hire designers because their good and not because their portfolio contains stuff they've never seen before, designers will become more open.
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> they would often happily implement the same idea someone else had from scratch without any qualms There is only one MD5. There is only one preorder traversal of a binary tree. Creativity is essential, but unless you do those kinds of things the same way as everyone else, you're doing them wrong and will get the wrong results.
API and implementation are not equivalent.