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Re: Flat UI, mirrored

#31

Post by subsystem »

ceejayoz wrote: post #23
asdfaoeu wrote: post #22

Why not just respond to the initial dcma rather than playing a game of cat and mouse. No one is going to use it while it has dubious copyright status anyway.

They did. https://github.com/github/dmca/blob/master/2013-03-06-LayerV... Mirroring it while Github drags their feet reenabling seems fair enough.

Github per the DMCA needs to wait 10 days before reenabling it.

"[...] replaces the removed material and ceases disabling access to it not less than 10, nor more than 14, business days following receipt of the counter notice, unless its designated agent first receives notice from the person who submitted the notification under subsection (c)(1)(C) that such person has filed an action seeking a court order to restrain the subscriber from engaging in infringing activity relating to the material on the service provider’s system or network."

Re: Flat UI, mirrored

#32

Post by _puk »

When I saw the story first, I half expected someone to come up with a 'whack-a-mole' script.

Every time the original repo disappears, mirror it with a variant of the same name.

Not condoning, and like to get you banned from Github, but this was always going to happen.

Re: Flat UI, mirrored

#33

Post by djsipe »

nailer wrote: post #2

From the images we've seen all side by side this seems to be a rip of someone else's work. Nicking people stuff isn't what Hacker News is about. I've had articles I've sent hours writing and issued DMCA takedown notices, just as the same as if someone stole my code. To take down a site using your stuff, you use a DMCA takedown notice. - That doesn't mean you're abusing the DMCA - That doesn't mean that the party that…

The current trend in web design is these ever-simpler icon designs. I can imagine there's only so many ways you can represent common icons using simple geometric shapes and (the infamous) rounded corners. LayerVault may feel they have a case, but I'm sure there's 5 other icon sets out there that could claim LayerVault is infringing on them.

Re: Flat UI, mirrored

#35

Post by corresation »

asdfaoeu wrote: post #22

Why not just respond to the initial dcma rather than playing a game of cat and mouse. No one is going to use it while it has dubious copyright status anyway.

No one is going to use it while it has dubious copyright status anyway

By that measure everything has a dubious copyright status, as anyone can send out DCMA notices.

Re: Flat UI, mirrored

#36

Post by ceejayoz »

subsystem wrote: post #31
ceejayoz wrote: post #23

Earlier quoted context omitted.

They did. https://github.com/github/dmca/blob/master/2013-03-06-LayerV... Mirroring it while Github drags their feet reenabling seems fair enough.

Github per the DMCA needs to wait 10 days before reenabling it. "[...] replaces the removed material and ceases disabling access to it not less than 10, nor more than 14, business days following receipt of the counter notice, unless its designated agent first receives notice from the person who submitted the notification under subsection (c)(1)(C) that such person has filed an action seeking a court order to restrain…

TIL! What an odd requirement.

Re: Flat UI, mirrored

#37

Post by asdfaoeu »

subsystem wrote: post #31
ceejayoz wrote: post #23

Earlier quoted context omitted.

They did. https://github.com/github/dmca/blob/master/2013-03-06-LayerV... Mirroring it while Github drags their feet reenabling seems fair enough.

Github per the DMCA needs to wait 10 days before reenabling it. "[...] replaces the removed material and ceases disabling access to it not less than 10, nor more than 14, business days following receipt of the counter notice, unless its designated agent first receives notice from the person who submitted the notification under subsection (c)(1)(C) that such person has filed an action seeking a court order to restrain…

Wow my bad, I had assumed DMCA counter notices were instantaneous.

Re: Flat UI, mirrored

#38

Post by ameen »

This whole episode has underlined a few major differences among developers and (current) designers. Developers are more open, contribute code and discuss about bettering each other.

While Designers seem secretive, ego-filled and seeking pointless exclusivity.

Eg: Developers: HackerNews / Github, etc Designers: DesignerNews / Dribble, Forrst, etc.

Any designer that has been open about his work and process has become a legend - Dieter Rams, Johnathan Ive, etc.

Re: Flat UI, mirrored

#40

Post by bluekeybox »

ameen wrote: post #38

This whole episode has underlined a few major differences among developers and (current) designers. Developers are more open, contribute code and discuss about bettering each other. While Designers seem secretive, ego-filled and seeking pointless exclusivity. Eg: Developers: HackerNews / Github, etc Designers: DesignerNews / Dribble, Forrst, etc. Any designer that has been open about his work and process has become a…

Personally I think this takedown notice is questionable to say the least (it looks to be a case of inspiration rather than blatant copying), but here is my devil's advocate opinion on design:

When you say that designers seek "pointless exclusivity", it's a lot like saying that hackers spend their time doing "pointless tweaking". Exclusivity is the currency of design. When you design something, and ten million people already have crappy variations of the same design, your design has lost all of that currency.

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