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Bitcoin rises from $14 to $40 in two months

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Re: Bitcoin rises from $14 to $40 in two months

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But how will the Federal Reserve be able to allocate new blocks of bit coins to give to one of the 12 federal reserve banks so we can fund more trillion dollar packages of spending borrowed money if all they can do is try to acquire bitcoins from other people who have them?

In theory, would inflation be impossible with bitcoin provided that the number of humans who are willing to exchange labour for coins always increase?

Re: Bitcoin rises from $14 to $40 in two months

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I expect a correction soon, as It happened last year. I wouldnt invest now any dollar.

I would expect the same, but I'm not in any way an economist so I'll wait and see. I also think that after the correction the price will rise again anyway.

i think you are right, past corrections have been cause dby someone dumping between 100k and 200k btc, i dont think there are many early players left with that amount of BTC that they would dump any time soon.Even if they did this would not move the market as much as it would have in the past, perhaps dropping the price by $10-$15 on a day like today, which would not take long to correct upwards again. It is not likely to start a panic driven sell off instead people will buy in at the lower price cuaing it to gain again.

Re: Bitcoin rises from $14 to $40 in two months

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I don't know enough about economics to judge, but is this growth sustainable and how high can it go?

In theory it can go 2-4 orders of magnitude higher. The value of all bitcoin now is about the value of a dozen tons of gold, or about 1% of the gold backing SPDR. Bitcoin is still minor-league, but it's knocking on the door of being significant. It will be interesting to see if any major governments freak out about bitcoin, or if any governments embrace it for, say, selling oil.

Re: Bitcoin rises from $14 to $40 in two months

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All else being equal, the more people who use Bitcoin (whether as a store of value or medium of exchange), the greater the demand for it -- and therefore the higher its price, because the supply is fixed asymptotically at 21 million bitcoins. In the long run, Bitcoin's price will be positively correlated with adoption.[1] -- [1] My thoughts on this haven't changed over the past two years: http://cs702.wordpress.com/2…

People will want to have it as an asset, not as a usable currency. Appreciating currencies are disastrous for any economy stuck with them, which is why we're no longer on the gold standard.

Re: Bitcoin rises from $14 to $40 in two months

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post #23

I don't know enough about economics to judge, but is this growth sustainable and how high can it go?

In theory it can go 2-4 orders of magnitude higher. The value of all bitcoin now is about the value of a dozen tons of gold, or about 1% of the gold backing SPDR. Bitcoin is still minor-league, but it's knocking on the door of being significant. It will be interesting to see if any major governments freak out about bitcoin, or if any governments embrace it for, say, selling oil.

It's just a commodity, why would Governments freak out about a commodity?

Whether or not bitcoins are currently in a commodity bubble or not is speculation, but bitcoins are no more a currency than Iron, Gold or Tulips are.

In theory commodities can go to very high heights indeed.

Re: Bitcoin rises from $14 to $40 in two months

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But how will the Federal Reserve be able to allocate new blocks of bit coins to give to one of the 12 federal reserve banks so we can fund more trillion dollar packages of spending borrowed money if all they can do is try to acquire bitcoins from other people who have them? In theory, would inflation be impossible with bitcoin provided that the number of humans who are willing to exchange labour for coins always incr…

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Re: Bitcoin rises from $14 to $40 in two months

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I sold at $22 thinking the bubble was going to burst soon. Damnit. There's an understanding that a few big players have a lot of the total amount of bitcoins in circulation. This price must be extremely tempting for them to sell at. That could cause a crash like last time. I would be careful of buying at the current price.

There's also a lot of early bitcoin that has been lost entirely, which probably skews the market a little bit.

I have a few on my old desktop in my parents garage from the CPU mining days. If bitcoins REALLY take off, I'm gonna have to recover them.

Re: Bitcoin rises from $14 to $40 in two months

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All else being equal, the more people who use Bitcoin (whether as a store of value or medium of exchange), the greater the demand for it -- and therefore the higher its price, because the supply is fixed asymptotically at 21 million bitcoins. In the long run, Bitcoin's price will be positively correlated with adoption.[1] -- [1] My thoughts on this haven't changed over the past two years: http://cs702.wordpress.com/2…

People will want to have it as an asset, not as a usable currency. Appreciating currencies are disastrous for any economy stuck with them, which is why we're no longer on the gold standard.

We are no longer on the gold standard because the gold was confiscated under threat of 10 years in prison. Please explain how holding a piece of metal under mattress destroys someone else's wealth, so you can come to a person and extract gold by force.

http://2012patriot.files.wordpress.com/2011/06/executive_ord...

Re: Bitcoin rises from $14 to $40 in two months

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I sold at $22 thinking the bubble was going to burst soon. Damnit. There's an understanding that a few big players have a lot of the total amount of bitcoins in circulation. This price must be extremely tempting for them to sell at. That could cause a crash like last time. I would be careful of buying at the current price.

Me at $24 by accident (stupid misclick on Mt. Gox, and didn't think paying the trade fee again would be worth it). Wanted to wait till $27, then the socks I bought would have been free. Free, as in, I earned them back. I do wonder from whom I stole though; these socks cost labor but I did pay the laborer. Then the price rose and I got an equal amount of euros back as I put in. Who did I steal from, the Bitcoin commun…

it's the same with stock price. say there's a giant correction. the value disappears. it wasn't stolen from anyone. the same way the global economy has grown over thousands of years, and people are much wealthier - that isn't because they stole from anyone but the total value of the entire economy grew and "everyone" became wealthier.

Re: Bitcoin rises from $14 to $40 in two months

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

There's also a lot of early bitcoin that has been lost entirely, which probably skews the market a little bit.

I feel like I should go on my old laptop and dig up my ~0.5 bitcoins. I wonder just how many bitcoins have been permanently lost already.

If it goes high enough, it will be worth mining trashed HDs for lost wallets.
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