This is so fantastic.
The Pirate Bay is now hosted in North Korea
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#232Earlier quoted context omitted.
Perhaps, "free speech" is the best term to use here. I think you refer to free culture, and/or free knowledge.
Is the transmission of information (1s and 0s) from one person to another not 'speech'? Would it be a free speech issue if a picture or movie was censored? I don't know. I do know I've been berated as anti freedom of speech when I've explained my ethical issues with (me personally) running darknet nodes, because I'm unwilling to let CP be transmitted over my resources.
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#233This makes me upset. Its upsetting because while yes, information freedom is a very important topic and needs to happen, but it does not trump human freedom. I'm not sure if this is a straw man or not - but how can they justify working with an entity that has such a horrid human rights record?
The primary function that the Pirate Bay serves is to illegitimately take other people's work and give it away for free - ohh, while displaying ads. Why would you hold them up to a higher standard?
Yeah, not like those social networks or anything.
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#234Earlier quoted context omitted.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Torrent_file I suppose it gives access in the same way that North Korea visiting Pirate Bay gave them access before. There is a widespread belief that Pirate Bay is some giant repository of a bunch of pirate content, and it simply isn't true. Well, it's true that it's content that aids pirates in finding and downloading that content, but pirate bay itself is quite lightweight.
I understand the difference. I was just assuming that since NK invited TPB they were planning on using it within NK. It also makes sense that if you were planning on downloading a large collection of torrents you would want the best possible access to those torrent files, as opposed to crawling for links.
Ah okay I understand. I don't think this has anything to do with access inside North Korea however, and if it is actually hosted in North Korea it is likely done purely as a middle-finger to the West, not as some sincere support for filesharing or anything like that.
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#235I expected more from HN than this knee-jerk support for TPB due to its self-promulgated association with "freedom of information." Freedom of information, in the specific context of The Pirate Bay, means denying content authors the freedom to choose channels of distribution for their work. It means repackaging content, giving it away "for free," while raking in advertising revenue. It means diverting money away from…
The piratebay does not host content. It is a directory, it is pure speech. "Congress shall make no law..."
I wish people would stop making such jumps in logic to justify an untenable position. Facilitating the download of illegal content has nothing to do with "speech" or personal opinion, even if the phrase can be rewritten as "telling people where to find warez".
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#236Earlier quoted context omitted.
Wow. I'm happy to turn this into a discussion. North Korea has it worse. There is no way in hell, you are going to convince me that the US is a bigger domestic human rights violator.
There is no way in hell, you are going to convince me that the US is a bigger domestic human rights violator. This in itself is a disturbing statement. So what are you saying, it's ok as long as the US is not as bad a NK ? Very disturbing. In a modern society, in what the US should be leading as a shining example to rest of the world there should be -no violations of human rights-
Nobody here is saying that.
The US treats a lot of people very reprehensibly, but comparing living conditions in the US to living conditions in NK is like comparing a Mercedes to a pogo-stick.
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#237The Pirate Bay is not concerned with your judgment. The Pirate Bay is concerned with making socio-political statements and providing access to their site, seemingly in that order. Discomfort with the situation is exactly what they are going for.
It should make you uneasy that they have to go to North Korea to keep the site online. While they are not martyrs for an easy to grasp cause, and their definition of 'free speech' may fly in the face of yours, they are doing their absolute best to keep alive what they think is important. This has recently resulted in much irony. Irony that I'm sure they're proud of.
You should hate this. That's the point. This wasn't done so people could keep downloading movies illegally, this was done to make a statement, to get you to think. So please, ice your knee, and think.
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#238Well, I can certainly point to this article next time someone tries to tell me how awesome the HN comment section is.
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#239Earlier quoted context omitted.
How is it that you think I was talking about a country other than NK? Is there a country other than NK with such a piss poor human rights record? Generally when someone murders one person we regard them as a horrid individual we don't say their not that bad because they only killed 1 instead of 10 like that Ted Bundy guy. I didn't say I was living in a police state, the country I live in hasn't executed anyone in 40…
And what country are you from? Edit: Oh I get it, if you you don't say what country you can pretend they are perfect. Brilliant.
> the country I live in hasn't executed anyone in 40 years, and we certainly didn't think it was a big deal to destroy our nuclear weapons arsenal, stop stockpiling nuclear weapons, or ban landmines.
From all countries with nuclear weapon 40 years without death penalty match only UK.
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#240Earlier quoted context omitted.
And what country are you from? Edit: Oh I get it, if you you don't say what country you can pretend they are perfect. Brilliant.
> the country I live in hasn't executed anyone in 40 years, and we certainly didn't think it was a big deal to destroy our nuclear weapons arsenal, stop stockpiling nuclear weapons, or ban landmines. From all countries with nuclear weapon 40 years without death penalty match only UK.
Ok, then he can go to jail for a tweet.