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Re: Texas Declares War on Drones

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Depending on the details, the "probable cause that someone is committing a felony" exemption is common to law enforcement. Exigent circumstances. If a police officer hears signs of a struggle in your house, he doesn't have to get a judge to sign a warrant before he kicks the door down.

But the way that gets used seems to be the officer somehow smells pot on every damn person they want to violate.

It's interesting you bring that up, as whether or not a drug-sniffing dog's alert is considered grounds for determining probable cause was recently tested by the Supreme Court.

I won't bore you with the full explanation of who won or why, but what I found interesting is that the dog's past performance comes in to play, the results of their testing, time in the field, etc. Also, the k-9 (human) officers are supposed to keep a record of their results to be provided should this come into question (which raises all sorts of things about false positives, false negatives, etc., due to ignored reporting of incidents that didn't otherwise generate paperwork).

I'm wondering now if there shouldn't be some similar standard of proof for police officers. I've never had the "smells like pot in there" pulled on me for any reason, but I almost hope that it happens at some point so that I can poll the officer's record to see how many times he's used that line as probable cause and what the feasibility of that is.

Re: Texas Declares War on Drones

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I agree completely, but it takes the government paying a private entity to do surveillance. Far fetched, but still plausible

Why is that far fetched? It's how roads and prisons are managed.

Also, a very great deal of sensitive government IT operations are outsourced to contractors and vendors and the like.

Re: Texas Declares War on Drones

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This is a knee-jerk reaction to a situation that the Texas legislature really can't stop. Cameras are becoming more and more ubiquitous with or without drones. Even with the law there's nothing stopping someone from posting illegally captured photos anonymously. The hobbyists will be ones that feel the impact of the law and the more clandestine drone operators that they aim to prevent will continue unabated. I'm sure…

I pretty much agree with you, but having seen the demo of the drone, there's a pretty big difference between a camera on every street corner, and a camera flying 3 miles up in the sky that you can't possibly see, but that is able to watch, draw boxes around and track every moving object in a small city.

Again, I don't exactly know where the line is or should be drawn, but the 1.8Gigapixel camera on those drones are just super creepy.

Re: Texas Declares War on Drones

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post #51

Earlier quoted context omitted.

But the way that gets used seems to be the officer somehow smells pot on every damn person they want to violate.

It's interesting you bring that up, as whether or not a drug-sniffing dog's alert is considered grounds for determining probable cause was recently tested by the Supreme Court. I won't bore you with the full explanation of who won or why, but what I found interesting is that the dog's past performance comes in to play, the results of their testing, time in the field, etc. Also, the k-9 (human) officers are supposed t…

http://reason.com/archives/2013/01/31/this-dog-can-send-you-...
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