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New Anti-Piracy System to Hit U.S. Internet Users on Monday

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Re: New Anti-Piracy System to Hit U.S. Internet Users on Monday

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This violates my perception of my ISP as a dumb pipe. I want to pay a fair price (whatever that may be) for an internet service provider that exists only to connect subscribers to the internet, at reasonable speeds near their advertised rates.

Start your own ISP and make it a dumb pipe.

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#152

Welcome to fascism. Where corporate-government interests strictly control everything (Verizon and AT&T = US Government, since they've been granted government monopoly protections, they are in fact an arm of the Federal Government).

Sometimes I get the feeling that the second half of my life is going to be a lot shittier than the first.

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#153

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This works fine if you don't talk to anyone about the show for six months. Otherwise, the conversation goes something along the lines of, "Oh. Yeah, I haven't seen that yet," and you become slightly less worth talking to.

That's the magic of exclusive content, selling something where people don't want a replica. That doesn't justify copying. They made content you want, why should you take it on your terms instead of theirs?

Because it's available and I want it. What more reason do you need?

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Incorrect. Sell it to me using a modern medium, I'll buy it. Netflix/HULU/AmzInstant or downloadable files. That's fine. CableTV, No.

I am not a user, but HBO Go does not strike me as any less of a "modern medium" than Netflix, Hulu, or Amazon Instant.

HBO Go requires a cable subscription. That immediately disqualifies it.

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>>There are people like me who want to have fun discussing shows with his friends/family while they're watching it. Not 6+ months later. Correction: there are people like you who feel ENTITLED to consume every piece of entertainment and will jump through whatever hoops necessary to do so. Because at the end of the day that's what it comes down to: entitlement.

Heh, everyone reading this thread. All I asked for is downloadable/streamable content at the same time as CableTV. Look how hostile the replies to me have become. So far I've been identified as entitled, absurd, in need of some perspective and unwilling to pay for content.

All of those angry comments frankly seem almost like astroturfing.

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If my friends/family are watching some awesome show like say, LOST, I'm not waiting for TV companies/netflix/whoever to get their act together. Lost is among the worst examples you could have chosen. It was one of the first shows available for day-after purchase on iTunes, and from the third season on had free day-after streaming on ABC's own site. And it was literally broadcast over the air for free. So to be clear:…

> If your relationships with your friends and family can't transcend such a trivial incompatibility as having not watched the same television show at exactly the same moment, maybe you should try watching it with them. Great idea; let's all fly cross-country once a week to watch a TV show. (You really haven't considered the feasibility of your 'solution' very much, have you?)

I contend that I have thought about this a lot more than you have, and that your incredulity stems directly from choosing not to think about it. But to respond, anyway:

If your relationships with distant friends and family depend on you watching television shows at the same time, and you're unwilling to pay the asked price for those television shows, then yeah, maybe you should fly cross-country to see them.

Because what does it say about how much you value those relationships if the thing that is allegedly so important to them is not only ephemeral and impersonal but also thought of as not worth paying for?

Personally, I think the better option is to not feel like you have to watch all the same television at the same time as other people, but that seems to be a wildly unpopular notion these days.

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>>There are people like me who want to have fun discussing shows with his friends/family while they're watching it. Not 6+ months later. Correction: there are people like you who feel ENTITLED to consume every piece of entertainment and will jump through whatever hoops necessary to do so. Because at the end of the day that's what it comes down to: entitlement.

> Correction: there are people like you who feel ENTITLED to consume every piece of entertainment and will jump through whatever hoops necessary to do so. You're acting like typing " http://thepiratebay.se into a web browser is somehow a Herculean feat that people are challenged with. I'm not sure if you've noticed, but it's actually easier than pretty much any other method of media consumption, by a fucking lot . Al…

People use the word "entitlement" because when you say this...

I download shit because...there's literally no other way to consume said content

...you're making the assumption that you are entitled to consume that content simply because it exists, and that not consuming the content isn't even an option.

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This is a tired argument born out of ignorance. You have no provided no evidence that the pirates would pay for it if they could, nor have you provided any evidence that HBO would make more money selling Game of Thrones to individuals than selling their network to the cable companies as an exclusive option for consuming their content.

I am going to assume that you are an older person who has no real experience with "piracy" because the tone of your comment suggests a misconception about how it works. "Pirates" absolutely will pay. They pay to get the content as soon as it comes out and in high-definition. There are large and influential companies that have come to recognize the piracy is the result of failures of distribution, not pricing. The pri…

I don't have a link handy, but HBO has come out and said that they are not being ignorant or stubborn regarding GoT. They are completely aware of the market opportunities they are passing up. But, they have run the numbers and at the current time it is still more profitable for them to tie GoT to cable subscriptions than it is to open it up to a wider distribution. When the numbers change enough, so will their business plan.

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That's the magic of exclusive content, selling something where people don't want a replica. That doesn't justify copying. They made content you want, why should you take it on your terms instead of theirs?

Because it's available and I want it. What more reason do you need?

This is the sort-of sentence that some would characterize with the adjective 'entitled'.

And this post, at least, isn't 'astroturfing'.

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I am not a user, but HBO Go does not strike me as any less of a "modern medium" than Netflix, Hulu, or Amazon Instant.

HBO Go requires a cable subscription. That immediately disqualifies it.

I don't understand. Netflix and Hulu are also subscription services.

If it's about the price of a cable subscription, then brown9-2 was exactly right to begin with: http://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=5276396

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