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Re: Good sleep, good learning, good life

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Post by uglytom »

ahoyhere wrote: post #73

This article looks like a really amazing resource. I haven't read it all but did a little Cmd+Fing to see if it broached the following topic, and it didn't, so I thought I'd chime in in case somebody else was where I was with these particular sleep issues: I used to have no problems sleeping at all, falling asleep whenever I wanted to, staying asleep all night, sleeping through noises… until I had mono for the second…

Glad to hear that this ended well. I couldn't imagine what you went through not being able to sleep. I feel as though if you aren't physically feeling well, you can't sleep well. At the beginning of this year I was sick and man, was it tough trying to get a comfy night's rest.

I am so thankful now for nights that I can literally rest easy.

Re: Good sleep, good learning, good life

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Post by readme »

Domenic_S wrote: post #60
jamesaguilar wrote: post #50

Earlier quoted context omitted.

For "a shitload" of years infant mortality rate was >15% too. How things used to be is not a good indicator of optimal approaches. A scientifically-minded person should not prefer random internet commentators to doctors' when the sole argument proferred by the former is that things used to be a certain way, therefore it's ok.

A scientifically-minded person realizes that doctors people too, with their own biases, agendas, and misinformation. A scientifically-minded person would seek out research to determine the best course of action.

A person with common sense would look at the mass of a baby, and the mass of an adult human. They'd consider their tendencies to sleep heavily, and perhaps conclude that the adult could easily roll over on the baby, and kill it. Or knock it off the edge of the bed, and kill it.

Hell, if you do the research there are plenty instances of people punching their sleeping partner in the face during sleep, because they were having a dream (I almost did it once, with my fist landing right next to my girlfriend's head in her pillow. I thought I was having a fist fight, but I was dreaming)

So, could a human kill a baby by sleeping with it? I don't know. Could a swallow carry a coconut?

Re: Good sleep, good learning, good life

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Post by steve-howard »

ahoyhere wrote: post #73

This article looks like a really amazing resource. I haven't read it all but did a little Cmd+Fing to see if it broached the following topic, and it didn't, so I thought I'd chime in in case somebody else was where I was with these particular sleep issues: I used to have no problems sleeping at all, falling asleep whenever I wanted to, staying asleep all night, sleeping through noises… until I had mono for the second…

It's interesting that your doctor wanted to put you on Wellbutrin since it's perhaps the only antidepressant that doesn't act on seratonin.

Re: Good sleep, good learning, good life

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Post by ahoyhere »

steve-howard wrote: post #94
ahoyhere wrote: post #73

This article looks like a really amazing resource. I haven't read it all but did a little Cmd+Fing to see if it broached the following topic, and it didn't, so I thought I'd chime in in case somebody else was where I was with these particular sleep issues: I used to have no problems sleeping at all, falling asleep whenever I wanted to, staying asleep all night, sleeping through noises… until I had mono for the second…

It's interesting that your doctor wanted to put you on Wellbutrin since it's perhaps the only antidepressant that doesn't act on seratonin.

She's my mother-in-law who is a doctor, but not my doctor. I probably substituted the name of another drug in the same family… the German name is hard to remember. The point being, I heard it, I looked it up, I said "heeeeell no."

Re: Good sleep, good learning, good life

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Post by ahoyhere »

ScottBurson wrote: post #89
ahoyhere wrote: post #73

This article looks like a really amazing resource. I haven't read it all but did a little Cmd+Fing to see if it broached the following topic, and it didn't, so I thought I'd chime in in case somebody else was where I was with these particular sleep issues: I used to have no problems sleeping at all, falling asleep whenever I wanted to, staying asleep all night, sleeping through noises… until I had mono for the second…

What happens to you after you exercise? Do you get headaches? I also have CFS, and one of the most useful treatments I've found is to take 200mg naproxen at bedtime, four nights a week. (Taking it every night would risk causing serious stomach and/or kidney problems.) This has improved the quality of my sleep considerably. I haven't experienced insomnia from the CFS, though.

Not headaches, but I would start to feel faint/dizzy during (causes a drop in blood pressure) and a day or two later, intense pain in any of the muscles I worked, and I would feel like I got hit by a truck. Like my limbs weighed a thousand pounds and I couldn't lift them. Even something as simple as tearing a piece of paper would feel like an immense effort. Early on, when I first got CFS, it was so bad there were several days when I couldn't hold my head up without crying.

This symptom is officially called "post-exertional malaise," which doesn't even come close to capturing the horror of the reality. The cause is that in people with CFS/fibromyalgia, the muscles don't replenish themselves with glycogen and ATP the way they ought to. When my FM was bad, I used to take D-Ribose as described in From Fatigued to Fantastic and that did help, but mostly I don't need it any more. I do much more physical activity now, and when I overdo it, I'm tired, but it's not disabling.

I try to avoid pain killers when I can. I haven't found that they change my sleep any more than the magnesium, which doesn't have the side effects.

Re: Good sleep, good learning, good life

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Post by ahoyhere »

andyakb wrote: post #83
ahoyhere wrote: post #73

This article looks like a really amazing resource. I haven't read it all but did a little Cmd+Fing to see if it broached the following topic, and it didn't, so I thought I'd chime in in case somebody else was where I was with these particular sleep issues: I used to have no problems sleeping at all, falling asleep whenever I wanted to, staying asleep all night, sleeping through noises… until I had mono for the second…

would you mind saying what the herbal supplement was that you ended up using? my girlfriend has a lot of these issues as well and I would like to mention it to her so she could discuss it with her doctor the next time she sees him. thanks!

Sure, it's Now Foods Mood Support. Be careful, IANA doctor.

Re: Good sleep, good learning, good life

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Post by ahoyhere »

pstuart wrote: post #79
ahoyhere wrote: post #73

This article looks like a really amazing resource. I haven't read it all but did a little Cmd+Fing to see if it broached the following topic, and it didn't, so I thought I'd chime in in case somebody else was where I was with these particular sleep issues: I used to have no problems sleeping at all, falling asleep whenever I wanted to, staying asleep all night, sleeping through noises… until I had mono for the second…

Trazadone and melatonin have helped tremendously in my sleep as well. For vitamin D you should make sure you get vitamin K in there too: http://www.vitamindcouncil.org/about-vitamin-d/vitamin-d-cof... http://examine.com/supplements/Vitamin+D/#thingstoknow

Thanks, that's really good to know.

Re: Good sleep, good learning, good life

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Post by svnfv »

huggah wrote: post #81
gmurphy wrote: post #12

I've struggled with sleep issues since I was a small child; even after doing all the reasonable exercise/caffeine/no-bright-lights things people recommended, my brain sometimes just wouldn't shut down. After some introspection, I came to realize that my body seemed be on a 25 hour day, and it just wanted to stay awake an hour later each time. Then I read gwern's article on melatonin[1], and it changed everything. I d…

I'm frustrated at how frequently gwern is assumed to be male. If you aren't sure of someone's gender, please use gender-neutral pronouns. So many of her articles have been posted to HN lately, yet I've only seen masculine pronouns used to refer to her.

What are you talking about? Gwern's definitely male.
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