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Re: Posterous cofounders create a replacement: Posthaven

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What about making this a non-profit, run by a board? Different idea, but, for example Matt M. created the WordPress Foundation to independently carry out the things he believed in. http://wordpressfoundation.org/

Yes. I love this idea. Right now I have to focus on coding, but this will be necessary down the road.

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Re: Posterous cofounders create a replacement: Posthaven

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This would have been perfect around a year ago. Once the writing was on the wall, I migrated 4 or 5 sites (kinda, mostly) to self hosted Wordpress. I would have happily shelled out $5/mth to go to posthaven, had it existed. Because WP bugs me, I've written my own lightweight markdown based thing in node[1] that I'm gradually moving everything to. On the upside, the Posterous thing finally taught me to not rely fully…

Why not just use docpad? https://github.com/bevry/docpad

Because it's taken me less time to write my own thing, that does exactly what I want, than it usually takes me to configure and customise wordpress.

Also, (and this is the main reason, really) it's just a lot of fun.

Re: Posterous cofounders create a replacement: Posthaven

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When I started working on Posterous in 2008, I intended to work on it forever. It didn't work out that way, and I left in January of 2011. It was a venture-funded company by then and we were committed to super-growth, not sustainability. We never started charging for the product. Posthaven is the result of my experience with that. I know the world needs a simple, clean, well-lit, easy place to post. One that doesn't…

What about making this a non-profit, run by a board? Different idea, but, for example Matt M. created the WordPress Foundation to independently carry out the things he believed in. http://wordpressfoundation.org/

Apparently, that "independent" WordPress Foundation is still just Matt:

"From an ultimate decision-making point of view, the Foundation is mainly just me. [...] It’s worth noting that the Foundation was created purely to be a trademark and IP holding entity that Automattic could transfer its ownership of the WordPress trademark to. There are no “members.”" [0]

[0] http://wpkrauts.com/2013/leaders-and-the-greater-good/#comme...

Re: Posterous cofounders create a replacement: Posthaven

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No, VC funding was not the mistake. The mistake was mine as a founder for not charging for Posterous. This is why we will charge money this time.

Nice work on the new site, the design looked great!

It's nice to see you acknowledge that things were rocky with Posterous but you are now moving forwards in a new direction based on your past learnings.

After all, isn't that one of the great things about being human? We can all learn from our past mistakes and strive to better than the person we were yesterday.

Re: Posterous cofounders create a replacement: Posthaven

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This idea seems ridiculous. I really hope your main selling point is not the fact that your website will last forever.

Let's not even go into the fact that there's a high likelihood this project won't even take off considering the high amount of competition out there.

But there are tons of uncontrollable situations that you MIGHT run into, even if there's a 0.01% chance that it will happen.

- What if someone sues you and you go bankrupt?

- What if someone offers to buy you out for 1 billion dollars?

- What if (God forbid) one of the original founders passes away and the rest of the founders decide it's no longer worth it to keep it going?

- What if the founding team just realizes the project is no longer for them?

- What if after the founding team retires, the people that they pass it onto decide THEY don't want to keep going with it?

I'm just not buying it, and I feel like a lot of people will have the same skepticism.

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On the one hand, you have street cred for building an awesome product which inspires confidence that your next product will be awesome too. I don't doubt it will be awesome. But on the other hand, you did accept VC funding for Posterous (I'm assuming nobody was holding a gun to your head and forced you to do it), and for whatever reason you then left and moved onto other projects. Now you are saying you will never se…

Thanks jbail -- I don't want to dig up the past, but the truth of the matter was I didn't agree with my cofounder on the direction of Posterous, but I also wanted to support him in his pursuit of the direction he believed in. It was one of the most painful experiences to have to walk away from my baby. I think we're put on this earth to create things of great lasting value that are good for others around us. Many thi…

> I also wanted to support him in his pursuit of the direction he believed in

Support him? By bailing out? Was it easy for your cofounder to replace your skillset? Would love to hear the whole story if you don't mind, it could help help others who are in similar situations. It's sad that cofounders who once created something together are not able to find a common understanding in later stages. Sad that both parties reached that point where they have to utter the threat either my way or I leave. WTF. I know this is common and probably the reason why most startups fail but just leaving (or maybe the true story was different) sounds a bit strange. However, maybe it was the best decision for the organization.

Re: Posterous cofounders create a replacement: Posthaven

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It's very peculiar that the way this service is presented is the exception, while it should be the rule. Actually most businesses should try to have this in mind: provide a service that users want and are willing to pay for and try to be cheap and sustainable.

I understand there is also space for "give it for free, grow like crazy", but the fact that it is now the norm is extremely odd IMHO. Most founders now optimize for VC rounds apparently.

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There is a pledge: Our pledge to you... We'll never be acquired. We'll always keep your URL's online. We'll always keep it the best place to post. And they charge $5 per month, so the sustainability is more clear. I've talked to Garry and Brett about Post Haven and they are genuinely committed to making this work as they pledge on the website.

About this: >And they charge $5 per month, so >the sustainability is more clear. In 1996, Geocities began offering a deal: pay $4.95 a month and no ads will be shown on your site, and you get to use your own domain for your website. I signed up immediately. 3 year later, Geocities was acquired by Yahoo. 10 years later, Geocities was closed: http://geocities.yahoo.com/index.php There is nothing really permanent about…

Chances are I have your site on http://reocities.com/ just append your old homestead and it should pop up.

There are many others besides that did stuff like this so check out the archive team, archive.org and so on.

Re: Posterous cofounders create a replacement: Posthaven

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I'm starting to think that apps and deployment will separate somehow. Developers will sell programs that users will deploy on shared hosting sites. Why would someone pay $5 for a blog when I an host anything I want on webfaction for $9.50 a month. The only problem is ease of deployment - which could easily be solved with a little elbow grease.

Users will have a local computer and a piece of a server up on the net that they pay for.

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